EPISODE 143

DIVE DEEP INTO HORMONES & SUPPLEMENTS

W/ DR. MOLLY MALOOF

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Dr. Molly's goal is to maximize human potential by dramatically extending the human healthspan. through personal health technologies, scientific  wellness, and educational media. Her medical practice is focused on providing health optimization and personalized medicine to San Fransisco, Silicon Valley investors, executives, and entrepreneurs. Her programs involve comprehensive testing of clinical chemistry, metabolomics, microbiome, biometrics, and genetic markers.

"Gut inflammation is actually really problematic for brain health. So if your gut is inflamed, your brain will never be fully at full capacity; it will never be working properly."

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"I had chronic illness as a child. And my parents just kept on giving me what the doctors told me that I needed."

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Baldo 0:58
Hi, guys, welcome to a very special episode of The How Do You Health? Podcast. we are shooting live from Sarah Katie's birthday party. And we're doing an episode that we're calling Dr. Molly on Molly because she's visiting us and we're having a lot of fun. And we're going to talk about Molly and other psychedelics. And this isn't there's doza on my right side on my right side. And I'm TexMex Yogi. So let's get the party started. Right. I'm actually excited for you guys to be talking because we've talked Yeah, we've obviously talked. Yeah. We've talked.

We talked briefly before all this?

Yeah,

Jon Mendoza 1:32
I kind of threw it out there. Yeah, a couple things. Yeah. I know that were very similar. I mean, it's just it's such a vibe like

Baldo 1:40
Oh cause she came she got to come to Sunday funday

Jon Mendoza 1:43
you have to sit experience that you already meshed well with it.

Dr. Molly 1:46
That was epic, by the way, right? Like I was like, guys, that was like my first introduction to a normal community after months of isolation. And you brought me to this incredible mansion with this beautiful couple. And there's an incredibly abundant family. And like, there was massage there was pools there was hot. It was like literally kids jumping in cold plunge. And getting in the sada there was yoga, there was a trampoline, there was just such high vibes, good, solid human beings, families, children, celebrations, like what church should be like, right? It was church and food and like abundance and just sharing and meditation. And it was like, all the things that

Baldo 2:25
And the pyramid, who knows what happens under the pyramid.

Oh,

Dr. Molly 2:32
I mean, the yoga was serious. And then like, I found out that people that ran that show like they had one Amazing Race twice. Yes. I'm like, who are calling and Christy. We still haven't got snow. Yeah, now like, Who are these Rockstar creatures? But anyway, I gave it Austin. And I got a jolt of Oh my god, the future is going to be great. Yeah. Like I was like, okay, the rest of the country seems like it's pretty much.

But Austin is the future because everyone's happy here. And people are celebrating and people are congregating. And people are staying together and like not fearing. Not living in fear. You know?

Baldo 3:08
Yeah, no one's gonna tell us what to do. Basically,

Dr. Molly 3:09
that's the thing I love about

Texas, Texas and Florida. You have to admit of all the states. They give no fucks Yeah, correct. They really do not care. And like the nice thing about it is that you can go to those states. You don't pay taxes. Leave me alone. Do whatever you want. Just like dude are the fuck you want just like be cool.

Florida. It's like be weird. But like in Austin. It's like a weird.

Yeah, yeah. It's a really weird thing.

Jon Mendoza 3:34
Yeah. Well, so we grew up. I grew up in South Austin. And

I loved hippies. I actually loved hippies, because they were always about natural oil and

less preservatives, all that stuff as well. It's basically

I mean, we've met so many people in the forms of realm that we were just talking earlier today. Yeah. You're a physician by training. Yep. Right. And then, doctor, a medical doctor decided eventually to do her left turn.

Dr. Molly 4:06
Yeah, into a totally new space. Completely terrified, but knew she had to change your life largely because of a DMT trip.

Jon Mendoza 4:13
Okay, nice. Well, tell us about that. So So what was it?

Dr. Molly 4:17
So I was really unhappy in my residency. And I was like, Oh, my God. So this is before you started practicing practicing. I was in my residency. And I was like, Oh, my God, I am either going to resign, or they're probably going to let me go like, either way. No one's happy. Like, this is not a good relationship. I was the black sheep of my program. And I just kept on questioning everything. And they were like, just keep your mouth shut in your head. Just call it just like, just do your job. Like you're not here to like change things. If you want to change things. You don't have to wait in line 20 years. And then you can maybe have maybe you can have the opportunity to change things. And I was like, Well, do you not notice that

Like across the bay, I was in Oakland at the time. And I was like, cross the bay, there's like this big tsunami of tech coming, and it's gonna go all of medicine. And it's gonna happen and it's gonna be pretty intense. And you guys are gonna have to like, either decide to go with it or against it. And so I'm going to go ride that wave surfing for a while. And so I basically jumped ship, and resigned and like, cried at a psychologists office for a month. Like, how am I gonna tell my parents? How am I gonna tell my parents, they're gonna disown me, they're gonna hate me, they're gonna be like, Oh, my God, and you know what? She's like, it's not gonna be that bad. It's really not.

And I was like, it's gonna be bad. And she's like, No, no, it's gonna be nearly as bad anything. And, and honestly, it was worse. Yeah. I'm sure it was worse. And so I was like, why did I waste all that money in a psychologists office, like crying when I should have just rip the band aid off and told my parents?

Jon Mendoza 5:53
Well, I mean, it's the idea that it's a loop to get your guard down. Yeah. So the reason why we're proponents of psychedelics is because it will bring about the production of serotonin, dopamine, right people when they have low amounts of it. Yeah. So imagine if somebody didn't have a deficiency in Prozac. They might have a deficiency in nutrients that don't allow him to make the serotonin.

Dr. Molly 6:14
Yeah, no, it's super common. Yeah. Or even amino acids Really?

Jon Mendoza 6:17
Well. Yeah. amino acids are great to nice regard language. So l glutamine. I was just reading about that right now. If you give 30 grams orally, you will, according to this study, reduce ICU admissions, which is like, by the way makes perfect sense. Because what it does is it enhances the immune immune response through eating the mucosal lining of the gut. So like, glutamine makes the gut healthy. healthy gut is a healthy immune system, healthy immune system can fight off COVID.

Baldo 6:46
Well, it's interesting because like, we call our L-Glutamine supplement "Gut", because it's like, well, that's where everything started anyways, but I explained glutamine like this to someone else, and glutamine, and Hell, yeah.

It's, there's something there.

But I was gonna say, I want you to tell me if I'm right about it, you can tell is like,

and so I told him like, well, L-Glutamine is found everywhere in your body. Right? It makes up tissue. Yeah, like there's it's a component of tissue acid. So any, any damage to your body? Whether because it's disease or fucking, yeah, whatever.

virus, right? And that would mean that there's a deficiency in glutamine. Is that correct? Like, I mean, I mean,

Dr. Molly 7:33
that makes a lot of like theoretical sense. I would say, the way I see the body is like, like, it's a structure, just like a home, right? And the structure is made of raw materials. And sometimes when there's like a really bad storm, then like the building, sometimes the materials get worn away. And you kind of got to replace the materials. And so to me, like glutamine could be an example of like, how you could repair some of the materials of the of the house if if it got damaged?

Baldo 7:59
That makes sense. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Dr. Molly 8:02
It's okay. You don't have to give me the glutamine. It's fine.

I get off on people to give me

Jon Mendoza 8:12
I know exactly what you want oral or injectable.

I know the funny thing is, we have injectables

Dr. Molly 8:18
don't think we should be injecting anything right now.

Jon Mendoza 8:20
We're not doing that. But we have a we have a show IV

Dr. Molly 8:24
No. IVs.

Jon Mendoza 8:25
No. I mean the challenge would be

Dr. Molly 8:26
No. Not happening.

Jon Mendoza 8:27
Yeah. Um, for people who are watching or not listening at home, we have basically a vitamin cabinet.

Here we have available to us when it comes to supplementation.

Dr. Molly 8:39
Yeah, I do too by the way, you guys are like, kind of similar. I literally have a fridge filled with vitamin C IV

Jon Mendoza 8:45
It's ready to go whenever you need it.

Dr. Molly 8:46
And you know what I discovered as I was giving myself an IV, vitamin C, and I was

I was reading blood sugar monitor. And literally the blood sugar monitor went like off the charts. Like, because of this ad, the vitamin C in my blood, it actually was changing the sensor. That's funny. We were just talking about literally changing the sensor capacity.

Jon Mendoza 9:06
That's what he was saying to that's interesting. Okay,

Dr. Molly 9:08
yeah. So it was super interesting. So like, I, I thought I had I thought like I was, honestly I thought I was really sick at one point this summer. And I didn't know what was going on. I was like, What is wrong, and I found out I had a gluten exposure, and I've celiac and so the gluten exposure, like oh my god for a week, I thought, I'm pretty much gonna die, my life is ending. And people don't realize that like gut inflammation.

Gut inflammation is actually really problematic for brain health. So if your gut is inflamed, your brain will never be fully at full capacity will never be working properly. Because you'll have all these inflammatory cytokines floating around causing things to be too hot. When things are too hot things break, right? So that's what happens in your brain when things get too hot in your in your gut. And so like, basically, I've had to spend a lot of time over this. COVID to like

rebuild my gut health, because it got really trashed this year with stress. I had to use antibiotics once. And it was like, I mean, obviously, when your defenses are down, you're more at risk for, you know, infections.

But I actually did. I mean, like, I probably didn't need to treat the infection. It was like this intracellular infection that I found, and I was like, chasing for something. And I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna treat it. And I was like, No, why did I do that? That was a big mistake. Why did they do that? I should never have treated that.

Jon Mendoza 10:28
He treated it with. Yeah, yeah. Well, because it was the traditional way.

Dr. Molly 10:32
Ya know, it was a huge guys. I haven't taken antibiotics in like a long time.

Jon Mendoza 10:36
But you were trained to do this. And now you're like, No, I'm really bad that I

Dr. Molly 10:42
Oh, I know. I know, because they are so so terrible for health. They're so bad for your immune system, literally, the worst thing you can do for your immune system is taken.

Jon Mendoza 10:52
And what we do all the time is we've had chronic ear infections and strep throat,

Dr. Molly 10:55
Oh, my gosh, I was a kid. I was a baby that was born in a hospital. And I was it was like an emergency birth. So I had all sorts of antibiotics. I was like a emergency c section. So the bloodstream, my mom was bummed. She was pumped with antibiotics when I was born. And so I didn't get any I also didn't get the vaginal secretions because I wasn't born through her vagina. So like, I didn't get a good microbiome start. And unlike all of my sisters, I actually had more problems health wise than all of my sisters. And I would say I'm probably healthier now than the majority of them. But I look younger, but I was not a healthy kid. I was like a little sickly girl. And I was getting pneumonia as I'd be in the hospital at strep throat. I had my tonsils out. And so there's all At what age you know, young gun, like kindergarten third grade.

Baldo 11:40
Wow. But you were just chronically ill.

Dr. Molly 11:42
I just like had chronic illness as a child. And I like and like my parents just kept on giving me what the doctors told me that I needed. But then like, the interesting thing is that, like, I didn't realize until I was an adult that like, I was like, I remember being in sixth grade being like, Oh my god, someday I'm going to understand all of this stuff. This is so weird. puberty is so weird, right? Yeah, going through puberty. And then I get to me like, I'm gonna figure this body out because this is so strange. And it wasn't until like, I learned functional medicine that I was able to piece together. Like, why my gut has been so tense, so tender, and so and so. Basically, like, my gut is not it's really hard for me honestly, to go vegan. And I'm trying to figure out how to do it and maintain healthy gut. Because like, it seems like my gut is like, doesn't have the microbes to chew the fiber as much as it should. I

Jon Mendoza 12:29
t's true. So then think about what good food would look like.

Dr. Molly 12:32
I just want a fecal transplant from Sarah.

Jon Mendoza 12:34
Well,

someone who says it worked. She got from her dad.

Dr. Molly 12:40
I want it from Sarah she's so skinny.

Baldo 12:44
says like it goes back to so how do I lose weight?

Dr. Molly 12:47
No, I know it always goes back to that seriously, but everybody's gained weight this year. Literally. Everyone is here and some people have lost weight. But most people have gained weight.

Jon Mendoza 12:55
have you gained weight Baldo?

Dr. Molly 12:58
have you weighed yourself?

Baldo 12:59
No, I never weighed myself.

Jon Mendoza 13:01
I don't weigh myself either.

Baldo 13:02
Yeah, but I mean, I fluctuate.

Dr. Molly 13:05
The good news is I've been muscle. Like I probably haven't. Yeah, I've laid muscle. But I'm also really curvy right now. Well, yeah. But the bad thing is when your labs aren't perfect, because you gained weight, like for sure that's not we're targeting a different way.

Science actually says I'd be healthier if I was 10 pounds lighter. So I can be 10 I'm gonna be 10 pounds lighter in 2021. But it's gonna be a lot of work. Yeah, you know, it's, it's incredible. Because when you look at like, nutritional route,

Jon Mendoza 13:33
there's all kinds of things you'll try. And really, it's all always anti inflammation. I know it always comes down comes down to that, always. So then you take the gut diet for people who fall in your home. There's three stages to a good diet, you basically eliminate everything, right? second phase is prebiotic foods. And then the third is probiotics. Yep. So whatever you're feeling is the groundwork for the probiotics and for people who don't know how to quickly develop it. When you go into a

Dr. Molly 14:02
sea. I've been doing elimination.

Jon Mendoza 14:04
Yeah, I mean, if you do elimination, you're gonna notice like a flatter stomach. You're gonna notice like, okay, maybe we'll go in the bathroom more consistently. It's just like, if you ever tried no gluten for a week, right? Like you just crash, like, you feel like crap. But you need to get that stuff out yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So when you talking about like, what I incorporate, like,

HGTV now has hikma tortillas? Yeah, yeah, totally. You can make them that way. fucking love hikma. Yeah, yeah. Maddie brought a frickin plan to introduce my church. He is on Monday

Dr. Molly 14:36
to get tacos on Monday and I'm like, I don't eat corn right now. Like say I eat a bunch of chickpeas and came off for dinner tonight. And I definitely felt like what a TX food co Yeah, but my.

My gut was all all sorts of No. It was like what what's going on here? Oh, it just like was not ready for at all. So I asked him to modify my diet. Yeah, what's really nice is that we had, we've had some sweets that people brought by but they're like paleo.

Jon Mendoza 15:00
Sweet. Yeah, some healthy stuff. But boy says we too.

I think at this point right now I realize I'm never gonna go sugar probably and Mexican food. Can you ever gonna give up sugar and Mexican food?

Baldo 15:12
like rice

Jon Mendoza 15:14
goes monitor on your arm. Okay, so here's the deal if you want to go into the scientists aspect of it. So agency and glucose is what you would normally look at for traditional. Yeah, they're terrible. They're terrible. So when we go further, we go home Er, yeah. Okay. We do see peptide. Yep. You do glycated serum protein? Yeah. But you need to actually look at your blood sugar after meals. Yeah. Well, I want I want to know, because I have this theory, even after? Well, I know my stuff, sugar. I just I know, we talked about it with that episode today. Right? And you talked about, like, I'm gonna put a blood sugar monitor on you this weekend. This weekend? Yes, I do.

Dr. Molly 15:51
And we're gonna do it together. Yes, the whole crew of guys. And I'm going to show you what you can learn from just having data. Yes, I would love that. So one of the endurance athletes that we work on,

Jon Mendoza 16:03
I think there's a form of diabetes that they have a B, but you wouldn't call it a diabetes. It's more the idea that you don't regulate your sugar.

Dr. Molly 16:11
Oh, they get carbohydrate intolerant, for sure. Because that already was eat pasta, right? But here's what happens. So that's true for the anatomy load, and they get a bonk on and on performances, because they can't they're not they're not metabolically flexible enough to switch over metabolic syndrome is over. Well, you know, it's like what it is, is like, they literally have have conditioned to their cells to metabolize carbohydrates. And they haven't flipped the metabolic switch to fats. And so when they, when their body runs out of carbohydrates, and its baggage in stores and competition, they what they what happens is that they balk, which means that they don't have enough blood sugar, or ketones, to meet the demands of their fuel, right. And so the key is actually for these athletes is to, first of all, do all their labs, find out what their hormones are, like, find out what's going on under the hood, but then also like, training them to do like basically using nutrition as a training mechanism. So like training low is one concept out of Australia, where like, you would train at night, like you would eat a low carb meal at night. And you would like train in the morning on low glycogen glycogen as low as though it's like a weighted vest. So you're literally training the muscles to metabolize fat during exercise. Now, the problem with this is because his athletes have to be really fucking careful, because they

are usually doing too much exercise. And that was the point I was gonna make. So like, they're usually doing too much in high intensity exercise every day, and I agree and then their immune systems can break down. I agree with their stress, their stress will build up there and they'll try to do these metabolic

challenges. And they'll fail because they're overtrained. So you have to kind of like, basically get a person sleep, metabolism movement, and ideally, like some mindfulness around themselves, it really just like super dialed and then you can start playing with like metabolic stressors.

Jon Mendoza 18:02
So I really been fascinated by this one hormone called adiponectin.

Dr. Molly 18:07
Yeah, yeah.

Jon Mendoza 18:09
And you're familiar with it? Yeah. Okay, so can you tell us

Dr. Molly 18:12
I used to check it on everybody, but I stopped. Yeah, cuz I wasn't sure if I wanted to, like pay attention to it or not. It was on my panel for a while.

Jon Mendoza 18:18
Okay. So let me ask you this. Yeah. What would make it adiponectin low in an individual you would see,

Dr. Molly 18:25
um, I think it's high in obesity. Right. So low in obesity, obesity and diabetes itself. Oh, interesting.

Jon Mendoza 18:33
Well, here's what's the conundrum. Alright. So high in autoimmunity, I think. Yes, but here's right. Um, possibly, I think it is. Yeah. Now what's interesting

Dr. Molly 18:45
I look at inflammation markers. That's what we're really looking at. Right so if there's something going on this dysfunctional you can do checkpoints you diagnostic tools, but Oh, six. No, look, I get I I do inflammation markers, too. Yeah.

But you also have to look at what's actually happening in the blood vessel. I agree completely.

Jon Mendoza 19:02
So what was fascinating about it is Argentine. Yeah.

Okay. And esta Rhone. Yeah. So, for years, I used to think that estrogen was an inflammatory hormone that you only got during menopause, okay. But your fat cells make it.

And the interesting thing about it is your fat cells make estrogen. So when guys have manboobs in their belly, it's all estrogen but it's inflammatory estrogen.

Dr. Molly 19:26
Yeah. So guess what? This year, I gained like 10 pounds. And guess what? I got estrogen dominant. And you know what? It's not the right estrogens. It's the four hydroxy estrogens because I don't methylate Well, and so I'm like, Fuck no, too much. Estrogen is like moody is crazy. So you know what I did? What?

detox off of caffeine. Ah, yeah. And I started exercising more. And I started eating more fiber when

Baldo 19:51
Wait you gave up caffeine?

Dr. Molly 19:53
Yeah, I had to do it was affecting my hormones, for sure.

Baldo 19:56
Interesting.

Jon Mendoza 19:56
So yeah, so maybe you can help me clarify this because

This is what I'm looking at elimination diet, by the way to always elimination diet. Yeah. So we looked at labs forever, and he would always Yeah, you know, we talked about like, why is this adiponectin so important?

It's low in diabetics, and we found to be lower vegans.

And we're across the board. Just remember she was saying you're making references? Oh, that Yeah. Yeah. It was just, why are you so low now?

And it's a fat cell hormone. Yep. leptin is also produced. And then I'm pretty sure I'd have admin access high in fat people. Well, I think I think what happens is I think is low. And what I think is it symbolizes the activation of the AMP caging.

And the AMP kg will help with insulin sensitivity. But all that stuff can also like basically help with the lining, like you said, because I was like, Well, if estrogen is really bad for you, why would you need inflammatory estrogen produced at all coming to find out warning labs and estrogen you make your cycle?

And but it's, it's it's incredible, because most women have never even heard that you could test for more than one estrogen. But it's a balance. And you talked about the metabolism? Yeah, you have to override the system. You literally have to override the system, because you function a different way. You're right, by the way, yep.

Baldo 21:19
Decrease adiponectin level on adults. Nice. Thanks.

Jon Mendoza 21:23
So but like I said, it was back in diabetics, it's low, and then vegans is low. So I said, why is this as an issue?

Baldo 21:29
Well, I had mine got Nord with the with the fasting protocol that I was doing this quarter, which I did not enjoy.

Dr. Molly 21:36
Well, so you guys, it is actually is elevated in women with autoimmune disease, which is super weird.

Baldo 21:42
because everything's reversed with not.

Jon Mendoza 21:44
Well, here's, here's, here's what I think I feel like, Okay, this brings up a good point. This was I was also going to ask you, so there's Brandon white fat,

your board Brown.

And then you develop white. Right?

So if you develop more white cells, does that mean you're producing less adiponectin? Because they only come from Brown cells?

Dr. Molly 22:03
They look has only come from Brown cells? I don't think so. No.

22:07
What you can do is with thermodynamics, right? Like, yeah, yeah, you can actually do and cryo, and essentially, it kind of increases at Brown adipose tissue. Right. Right. Right, because it also increases IGF one. Yeah, I once did this thing where there is a connection.

22:26
The what I once did this thing where I fasted every other day for a month. And I lost a lot of weight, of course, and I also, but it's not sustainable for women. No, it's totally terrible. And I do not recommend it. And I actually like looked back on that year, and I'm like, why did I do it? The thing about it is that people are gonna listen to those live. But wait,

22:44
I have a friend. So I don't want to talk about her. But let's just say that there's like people out there that are fasting gurus. Yep. And they like have a brand. And it's all about, it's all about. It's all about,

22:59
like, intense fasting. But the problem is, is that like, a lot of my friends who've actually become intense fasters have gotten depressed. You know, why? What?

23:10
kills off the microbiome?

23:13
Well, it's great for cebo but it actually will kill off the microbiome. And so you just if you don't feed it, it won't grow. Well, but see, but that's that's part of the point. Yeah, I know. Right? Because like, yeah, like I do, I do a six month Yeah. Fast. Every every quarter, just my fast. I mean, it's a six days.

23:35
Every six day fast, every, every group together for this, by the way, every quarter because that or whenever there's a season change, because I want to reset my gut for the new for the new season. Let's do it fast. Next next season, and let's do a three day for the girls. Let's do it. Yeah. But the thing about it is that, yeah, you're right. Like, I don't know, like I am changing. I used to do 20 hours a fast. That was great to hear something crazy. And now I'm doing I'm going back to 16. He's like totally nuts. Yeah. I

24:04
did a three day fast. And it was like, incredibly, sexually frustrated. Like, I thought it was a date. And I think it was a date. But like, he didn't want to touch me. And I was like at his family's estate and it was beautiful. And it was like, he introduced me to his mom. And I was like, why are you not laying any hands on me? Like why are you like completely ignoring me, physically? Because we are the date was about to do a three day fasting weekend. Sure. And I was just like, what is this guy's deal?

24:33
And he did tell me in the car that he's like, I've been depressed since I was a baby like a kid and like, and I was like, Okay, well, if that's what you're telling me like, you have to heal your depression before you can date me. Then like, cool. That doesn't mean that we can still hook up right? So

24:47
didn't happen. Nothing happened. Having to guess. And I was like,

24:53
I'm so lean right now.

24:58
That you're like hey, what do you think?

25:00
I mean, I'm in this hot bikini with these big white sunglasses. And I'm like, I'm looking like a 60 sec spot, and nothing happens. And so we go to his hotel, and the next day, and we hadn't we had a nice meal that night after the three day fast, and then went to his hotel. And like, he was like, Alright, I'm gonna go do like mitochondrial biogenesis protocol. And so I went and became lovely. Yeah, no. And so I went, and I did high intensity interval training on the treadmill to work out the energy, right. And then I lifted weights, because I still had more left. And then I did a sauna. And so I had basically turned on every single battery of my body.

25:44
And then I and then and then I left him, we drove back. And I went to a dinner with my community that night, and the next night, and I was surrounded by beautiful, wonderful kind people high vibe. really healthy food actually was a vegan dinner. And it was really dope. And it was super fresh. And chef was incredible. And everyone's like, you're literally like, fluorescent glowing. I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was just fasting for three days, that might be it. And I was like, what I look at pictures of myself at that moment that night, and I was definitely like, glow. And so

26:16
then I go home, and I'm in bed. And I'm like,

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you know, I'm, I'm really excited about the future because there's gonna be MDMA clinics, yeah, where I'm gonna be able to give people MDMA to give them peak experiences. And then before I knew it, my whole body started experiencing a complete hands free touchless full body involuntary orgasm. That's awesome. And I'm not talking about just a little or it was like, I was like somebody, I'm an actor, tell my friends and like, I'd maybe be crushed by ghosts right now. Like, I don't know what this is happening to me. And then a friend of mine was like, well, he had a Kundalini awakening. I was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna have to read about that. Like, who is this guy? Right? I was like, I'm gonna go read about that. Like, I'm gonna read about that, you know, it's funny, cuz like three months prior, I was like, really not in a good place. I just had a breakup, I left a company I had raised $2 million for and like, it was bad. It was bad. And I was really sad and heartbroken. And so at that moment, I said, God, just give me a taste of enlightenment, you know? And then I have this experience, like a few months later, and I start reading books on it. And I'm like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want my whole life to turn upside down. Please don't do this. And it was no there was nothing no way around it. I started going to meditation retreats while I went to Burning Man had a fan fabulous. To hear flow, pure flow week. Literally like in and out airplane. Like sit there didn't even have like had like a bedroom waiting for me in a hotel with a bike and like didn't plan any of it. I just had like, people just like took care of me. It was very cool. It's not bothering I. I just I just did a I just finished a one year celibacy. Oh, fuck, yeah, yeah. Okay, so like, we're gonna get to this. So

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we're gonna get to this the celibacy concept. So like, so basically, like,

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the next year, I just end up

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having like, so chaotic, my energy is all over the place. And I'm like, I don't even know how to contain this. This is just so much. So I would go to sit and do meditation. And I was like, I need to meditate. And so I went into my first meditation retreat, and then it happened again, in the meditation. And I was like, pure bliss. Samadhi I had to like, leave the room. At one point, I was like, Oh, my fucking god. And then that night, it happened at the meditation retreat in my bed. And I was like, Jesus Christ, like, What the fuck is happening again, you know? And I'm like, I, I either have, like, the most profound medicine of all the time in my hands.

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Or people are gonna think I'm totally nuts.

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I don't think you're nuts. I don't think you're not through this one year. So I'll be I really learn how to channel energy. Yes, you can. You can do some magical things with it. Like we don't even realize that like most of sex is actually the energetic polarity between two people that like comes together. And the physical is just, it's just like part of it. But it's like, as I've learned, like, it's so much more than the physical. It's literally energetic. Have you ever done ever had like, tantric sex through just your thoughts? Yes, yes. Yes.

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I have done this. And people and like, other people can feel it. And they and they're, they're thinking and you're thinking, well, so I think about the matrix when the Oh yeah, like when he sent the chocolate cake over? Yeah. And the girl just had, like, I need to go to the restroom real quick. Yeah. Yeah, of course. I can do that.

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Yeah.

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What about sex on Molly? Oh, well, the way I kind of describe

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Okay,

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My God, you want me to tell you all my secrets in one night? Sure. I mean, that's what the podcast Okay guys, we're gonna strap in this is the best podcast I've ever recorded. Oh, yeah, hell yeah. Okay, so I

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shouldn't tell everyone everything.

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So I had maybe some problems orgasming with men growing up sure couldn't probably accommodate for women get it good and have an orgasm with a guy. And I could orgasm with myself. Yeah. But like when I was having sex, I was like, nothing. I couldn't orgasm. And I was like, What's going on here? And so I go to Burning Man.

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Of course, this is like maybe my second. This is like a commercial. Second was my second year of Burning Man. Yeah. And I'm already in the bay. And I'm already like, adjusting to the new life in the bay. And I've been to Burning Man once, but this is like my second year there. So I'm kind of like,

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figuring it out, you know, and I meet this guy in my camp. And he's like this super stud Hamptons dude. Just like blonde beach beachy. Like, online poker player, like made up, you know, jumped up to Northwestern, and like, made hundreds of 1000s of dollars playing online poker, just traveling the world. And like hot. And I was like, ooh, Whoa, dude, your mind. And so basically like, the whole week, we were just that and I do not recommend this by the way. Like, this is like me young and stupid.

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do not recommend this whatsoever for anyone. Do not do this. This is not healthy. This is absolutely not medical advice. This is like, this is like off the record like it's on the record.

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Disclaimer, this disclaimers, disclaimers like, Don't do this. This is dumb. But I didn't know what I was doing. And this guy had a lot of Mali. And so we did a lot of Bali. And we had this like, ecstatic experience of Burning Man. And there was like this point at opulent temple where we were looking at each other and we're having such a good time. We were like, should we just like, keep doing this and like, just come home with me. And so he I took him home with me from Burning Man. And he like we made this incredible love nest in my beautiful uptown Oakland loft, which was like huge high ceilings and like, Philips Hue lights everywhere, and like blankets and candy candles and like, just like chocolate and like imagine like all the delicacies you can ever imagine around you. And we proceeded to basically have a week of MDMA and sexual relations. And let me tell you, that there was a point where I actually was able to finally orgasm with a man, that's awesome. And it wasn't until I realized that like MDMA, in that moment, like completely healed me of serious trauma that enabled me to open up. But that's, that's the big thing when it's there for now. Therapy 10 years ago, right over 10 years ago, like at least 10 years ago, because it allows you to open up imagine that you're a girl, and you're like, I went from having no fun insects to like it basically before, it was a performative act. Yeah, to having this experience where I'm like, I'm having an orgasm with a guy. And this is like, the first time ever. And I'm like, not completely, like a lot of women are afraid of what they look like, by the way, when they come

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in super, super common thing, and I just let completely go. And I actually was like, holy shit, like I gave myself MDMA assisted therapy, like, sex therapy. Um, yeah, that's where and I was like, I didn't know what I was doing. Sure. But this is like, the one thing that's a commonality in my life, my career is I'm always like, way ahead of the curve, like wait years that like light years ahead. And so I can kind of see five to 10 years within the future. And so this was me like 10 years ago, and I was like, holy shit, this is like, crazy. But I didn't really totally understand what it happened until the last few years when I was like, an MDMA started having this resurgence. And I was like, Oh, my God.

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This is gonna save so many women's sex lives, like it's going to change so many women's lives in terms of healing. We went through the me to movement, right, and now it's time for like, actually heal. Yeah. But what it's been used for PTSD or new is out, is that what it's been studied for? It's been used for PTSD, which simply like, it's, you know.

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So for the same reason, right? Yeah. Just let go. And just like talk about it, you were able to feel all of the emotions that you've been buried inside of you, because you didn't want to feel them. They were traumatic. Yeah. So your body was trying to protect you by hiding them, right. But then you can feel them all and then you could process them and you can move through them. Yep. And that is where healing really happens. And you can get so from what I know from like Mali or from taking MDMA is just like you get to feel it and just understand that it's just a feeling as opposed to that

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This is my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, cuz the ideas that

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everyone's always talked about, and they say like, well, what's the whole point of this? Because integration is what's the key? I get that true? The setting, the person guiding that? Sure, it all makes a difference. But you get just like anything else, many different ways. Yeah, you know, there's not one for everyone. But when you take notice of the efficacy of like, 7080 Oh, my God, it's like so effective. It's not even close. It's not even close. There's not even a debate, like really the answer to all of our PT like posttraumatic stress is like love. You know, it's like, oh, this is what love feels like, remember, you can feel love again. And it's like, oh, that's what love is like, then why wouldn't everybody want to feel like this? The truth is, though, is that it is it is abused, and it is overused. And some people do hurt themselves, and end up with like significant imbalances in their brain because they overdo it. And there's also a lot of fake shit out there. Oh my god. So most of it's really, really, really not MDMA. Most of it's actually totally garbage. And so like, you have to test your stuff, like I just want to

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bring into this. But uh, let's just say that, like, I was dating a young, much younger man.

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And he was like, absolute Cougar action. It's like, he's like, let's do some MDMA. And I was like, well, where'd you get it? And he's like, well, I got it from a friend. I'm like, why don't you test it? And, and he tested it. And we tested it. And it was like, not MDMA. And I was like, you still want to do this? Like, this is like a bath salt. And he's like, why not? And you know what? It wasn't a great experience.

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experience at all. It was a big mistake. And like, I mean, I went with it, but I was like, really glad that I told him I taught him a lesson. Yeah, you know?

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Just don't take it. If it's not what it is. Well, yeah, good. Boys. I used to go to all sorts of festivals and people offer you and, you know, all sorts of drinks. I always had a kid with me. Yeah, pretty sure. I was like the weird one. I was like, Yeah, okay, I'll take it. But give me a second real quick. All right, at this point, this point right now, though, times have changed a little bit, unless you just, you're gonna get some random concert, and just walk around I was at was the STS nine, jam band like old magic, you know, Grateful Dead was just a little Yeah. But

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I mean, all the types of approaches to mental wellness, yeah, it would be something that is least likely going to have a side effect. That's really bad. If you give vitamins, and recharge the mental wellness game. That's kind of majority of what you need. And then you from the vitamin world, you need to supplement with what you need, right? But all the all the bullshit that you see out there from the medical world, they're still trying to peddle all the people to follow their system. And well, here's the thing, the system does its job. It's a sickness, billing industrial complex, does that job. And if I got in a car accident, I would be so grateful for modern medicine to put me back together. Sure. And so I'm really leaning away from being like, the system is so broken, it's like, no, this system does exactly what it was designed to do, which is the billing code for disease. Yep. It wasn't actually designed to care for humans. But like, it's a business. It's definitely designed to build and code for disease. And it does a really good job at that. And so and also, like, if you break, yeah, it's based on military medicine. If you break completely like it, they will put you back together. That's what insurance is supposed to be. And then we basically developed all these chronic lifestyle related diseases from the abundance of modern life. No. And now we're trying to fix them with drugs. And it's like, no, drugs don't actually fix the problem. But lifestyle does, but the thing is like being healthy in America is actually pretty hard. Like you have to be different than almost everybody. The vast majority of people are not healthy. And we 88% people are metabolically unhealthy. That's a huge percentage. That's like the vast majority. So basically, you have to be different than everybody if you want to be healthy, which is hard. Because like, you go to your family events, and, you know, like, you want to eat what they're eating, and you want to please them and you want to make them feel like it's okay. Yeah, of course, we were talking about earlier today, when there's family that brings out like my dad for his birthday party last year and had barbecue and desserts. Yeah. Right. And everything just seems to be like normal in the family household, we get together and everyone's complaining about how their knees hurt, and how they don't feel good. And how like I just talked to someone earlier that was talking about cardiac disease runs in their family,

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all that stuff.

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I mean, like you said, you have to look to see how your body functions. It's not necessarily the idea that you don't need sugar. It's just that you process it very differently. I mean,

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sugar is a refined product that is essentially like cocaine to the brain. Yeah, so whether we like want to accept it or not, we're all gonna have attics. And the reason why I like what we're doing is we're not all hummingbirds. And so we're not like not only

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If you're not using, if you're not using

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your sugar, then you're gonna end up with higher blood sugar and it's gonna rot your it's gonna rot your body, of course, but the thing is, is that like most people don't even know they have blood sugar problems, because they have to wait till they have diabetes to get help. And that does not do enough to predict and prevent these chronic diseases from happening. And that's where we kind of fill in those gaps. We like to mention it because I had an ER physician, yeah, buddy of ours. And I remember when I told him to become a nurse practitioner. It was well, I don't know what they do. But it's definitely like, worth the hassle. Because like, you don't receive all the liability. We do. Yeah, I get that. But then I also know how the game works. And one thing we've only made a point and say, Look, the patient should determine what the cares of everyone else, the doctor may or may not make some recommendations. But for the most part, it seems very difficult to try to get like

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so many people on board with this unify idea. Yeah. But it's so strong, that that system is not going to be broken and torn down. No. And the thing is, it's kind of already imploding upon itself. It kind of is like I actually was talking to friends of mine last year, I was like, man, if I could just short the healthcare system, I would do that right now. And I'm so like, I didn't know how to do it. But I was like, everyone's like, You're crazy. Why would you say that? And I was like, well, pretty sure that like, it's just not working for most people. And also, like, we're overdue for a plague. And they're like, what am I like? Yeah, I've been sending viruses all summer. And I just like, kind of got obsessed with the last summer and I was like, weird. Like, why am I so obsessed with viruses? Why am I training all these chronic fatigue patients, and I was like, oh, there's Chronic Fatigue is actually post viral often. And often intracellular infections, what happens is these micro organisms, they get inside the cell, and they basically evade your immune response. And then they hijack your metabolism machinery so they can make their own energy, they can make their own,

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you know, capsules, they can make their own proteins. And they like they actually insert their own DNA into your DNA so that your your your machinery will work on them, or work on building them. And that's why we see this like energy deficit in people with viral diseases. It's like a it's like a serious energy deficit. It's like, you're literally like, having like your appliances cut half the power. Things are things are gonna break, but the virus trying to survive as well. Yeah, exactly. The virus is trying to survive. It's weirdly a zombie. It's not really alive. It's like, dead. It's like a vampire. You know, it's like viruses are like fires so weird. It's like they're not even alive. Because you can't that's why you can't kill them. Yeah, well, you can kill them. You can like you destroy them. But like, you can't like technically kill a virus because, well, there's like this. There's things like live viruses, live attenuated vaccines, there's killed vaccines, and like killed vaccines are just like the antigens, just like the components of the virus. But like the live attenuated vaccine is actually like, I've manipulated the virus so that it actually, like, performs some of its functions in the cell.

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And ideally gives you the ability to defend yourself against whatever it is that you're trying to inoculate inoculate you for.

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So I was thinking, I was reading a book on cancer, and the cancer cell

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is incredible. Yeah, it's it's amazing. I mean, it's terrifying. But but it's amazing, but it's amazing. how it performs. Yeah, whatever it needs to do it just like it's a badass. Yeah, token sale, right? I mean, it sucks that it hurts. Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally. But like, could could you hack it to me to be good?

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you hack cancer? I mean, okay, the funny thing, funny, funny story about how cancer like San Francisco had this like, like,

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what's the word for it? Very successful, young people who had extra money to kill, you know, to like spend, they

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they invented this thing called hack cancer. And it's funny, because at the hack cancer events, everyone's just binge drinking. And like, alcohol is pretty much a carcinogen. Like, across the board. Yes. There's no question that alcohol is a fundamental carcinogen for like, so if you really want to have cancer, just stop drinking. You know, just like maybe I was I was looking more like, is there a way to code a cancer, so instead of like hurt to improve, like to make me a superhuman? Oh, no, you want your cells to function, according to you. So what you need to do is you need to like basically create complete agency over your body, like you want to, you really want to develop it to admit to your body and deep inner knowing of your body and you can do that through data. You can do that through intuition. But like I use both because I think that science can give you a lot of information. I had a lot of I had like a bunch of intuitive concerns about my body this year. And I was like, I need to go look under the hood. I got a full body MRI, and like literally the things I

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thought were there were there. And I was like, Okay, now I have data, and I can act on this. So did you manifest them? I do think that my, my stress over the last few years manifested these problems. I think I have like a little tiny liver hemangioma. I think that was from anger, unresolved anger. I had I had, but they're healing fibrocystic breasts, which has greatly resolved from caffeine with, like giving up caffeine. But that's like a symbol, according to Louise Hay that's like, the like, failure to nourish oneself properly, right, like always to give other people and not yourself. And then the I had like a little vibrator on my on my uterus. And I knew I had to have your periods this year, because I was eating way too much meat and dairy. And I was like, This is not good for my estrogen at all. And they're like, yeah, there's a fibroid there, for sure. And that's like, that's like nursing wounds, from nursing pain from a partner, which is like a really hard breakup I went through. And then in the brain, I had this like, teeny, tiny microbiota, no, my my pituitary. And I'm like, Oh, that's the control center of the body. That's literally me being completely, like control freak my entire life. And like, needing to actually like, go, and completely, like, just be more me. And just let go a little bit from all of this

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obsessive control freak bullshit. Like it's not serving me anymore. That's interesting, right? Because Science doesn't touch that doesn't. Yeah, but I've seen enough disease and healing to see people, like you can address the biology, you can dress the spirituality and address the psychology. But like, you kind of have to look at all the layers, and also the community around a person, right? And it is so important. For everything, everything literally, like one of the most important things for health, which is, which is why this is such a weird time right? Now. I know. Because if you if we can prove this to you, you have the energy of aura, you have a force field, wherever you want to call it. Yeah. Being around someone else increases their level of vibration, we have this

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EKG, right EKGs like measure electromagnetic waves coming from your heart. Yeah. And there's electrical signals coming from your heart. So it literally like there's like, there is this thing around your body that you can measure. That's what you are doing. Now horses have like, the field that they admit of their electromagnetic field is like 30 feet, so they can feel a person before it even enters the room. They know that someone's coming. Like we have it early. I think it's around like two meters around us. So like, but you can actually feel people when you enter a room. Oh, yeah. When someone's agitated, someone's angry, you feel it? You can feel it. It didn't need to be saying anything. You could just like see it. The knife in tension with a knife. Yeah.

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Wow.

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I mean, it's always great to hear from a different angle. But yeah, I mean,

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I mean, the whole point, the whole point of that, like sort of diatribe was like, essentially, like you're doing your body a disservice if you're only focusing on the biology, because you actually need to look at the spirituality. And you also need to look at your psychology, a lot of why my clients don't change behaviors, because their mindset sucks, of course. And they also just keep on giving themselves excuses over and over again. So you have to actually work on people's mindsets, and then need to figure out what's underneath the behavior that's contributing you to not be like what's really underneath this, like behavior that you're doing at night? Like, what's really underneath that? What, why, why does your body craving sugar in the middle of the night? You know, it's because you're insulin resistant. Why are you insulin resistant? Well, you spent COVID sitting, and you used to be really active, and now you're not. And you used to eat healthier. And maybe you've been eaten a little bit and drink more. And before you know it, there's 10 pounds of your body, right? And it's your body's way of protecting itself. It's like I need more fuel, because I don't know what tomorrow is gonna be. I know what's gonna happen tomorrow. And so like, part of what healing is about is actually sending safety signals to your body. Yep. Through tribe. Like, it's the ultimate safety signal. It's like, I've got people who will take care of me, cool, I'm not gonna die. Like, really important. Apparently, it's like, loneliness is like, as bad as smoking. Now we're saying, Yeah, so like, you need to tribe. And you also need to, like, really learn to feel your body and like, learn to feel when something's off, right. And I knew that all sorts of shit was off this year. And I was like, I got to make some big changes. And honestly, I actually have fixed almost all my problems this year, which is awesome. But I most people do not have that kind of like expertise. And bodies are kind of like houses or cars, like you kind of got to go to a professional, like, get it fixed. And unfortunately, it's not of doctors like me, who do what I do. Because I do like this heavy deep dive and I do like all these questions and all these labs and all this imaging, and I'm like asking you a million questions and then learning about your life. And like that's not cheaper. That's like a that's like a customer

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cars, cars custom suit, you know, custom car. So like, software will help eat this, like the software will eat all these decisions, and it will make everything a lot more reasonable for everybody. I think it's like genetics, like when I first started measuring it on clients years ago before anybody was doing genetics.

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I like the bad like big research companies to like, give me the clinical exome data, I was like, just give me the data, I paid for the data, just give it to me, it's like to research, I'm like, I have a client, I'm paying you, I want you to give me a service. And this is like before, you could actually get your full exome easily. So I'd like to call labs and like hack this, this guy ended up having a genetic disorder. That was fairly life changing for him, because he got on the right medication to fix it. There was constant beauty and his family. So like, in England, they interbreed a lot on islands. So there's all sorts of problems with people's genes. And so he had one of those problems and this gene, and I discovered it and then he goes to like the world's researcher on this case, and he's like, You're like a compound heterozygote for the scene. And we don't see this very often. This is very interesting. And who discovered this? And it was like me, I discovered it. But then the other guy gets the credit for it, because he's a researcher. And he writes that a man. Yeah, man.

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Just because you're out in the field, it's fine. Honestly, I saved his life. So that's all that mattered. So and you know, talked about that, too. From a practitioner standpoint, the definition of healer has changed the course, right? Even this past year, right? Because I was telling someone earlier, I was like, I don't even think it was practitioners, the only healers anymore. Because if you are going to the doctors, you aren't giving the right answers. In the wrong rooms. That's what basically we've been taught in business, right? Oh, yeah. So like, just that way, we need to not alienate all doctors, just so you know, like, a lot of doctors are on the frontlines right now. And they are struggling. And they are like literally keeping people alive. And so like, we need this system right now to be loved and supported for what it is. Because right now there is a lot of frickin suffering, there's a lot of full ICU beds. And there's a, like, we have a serious problem on our hands, like our country has essentially created the conditions for like, being the laughingstock of the world when it comes to this pandemic. I

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I completely agree. Because when you look at setting up for failure,

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the doctors who stood behind all these organizations and you know, stood by him, I mean, it's it's so out there now, you can't stop this thing. I mean, that's almost were you watching it crumble. Yeah. Then on the flip side, you see the power that they're putting out there with like, you're getting two doses of this is gonna be seasonal and all that. And people are like, well, there's no other option. We've talked well at Stanford, apparently, like they wouldn't let these frontline frontline workers get it. Like they screwed up some sort of algorithm. And so like, all these Stanford doctors are like picketing. They're like, why aren't you giving us the vaccine? You know? And it's like, so where did they start distributed the vaccine already? Yeah, yeah. I think it's going to like frontline. Is that Is that how it is? Yeah, but the thing is, like, apparently, like it didn't.

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So the vaccines ready some.

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Stanford apologists that retarders protest the vaccine plan that put the frontline workers at the back of the line.

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Yeah, yeah, what the fuck is one of our one of our fraternity brothers so put, uh, oh, you because you're not on Facebook anymore.

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And nice, by the way to who we went to to New Braunfels he, you know that he was getting the vaccine. I mean, I guys, I work at Stanford. So like, I'm allowed to say this, like, This is crazy. Like, this is really crazy. I mean, we printed out the side effects that's listed on the website for the vaccine ownership. I don't know. Yeah, it's it's Boy, that's that binder. So it's floating around here. But it says like, the worst thing on there

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was death. But then there's like, three or four different types of encephalitis. There was like, I think, fertility issue with this thing, like afterwards, like a common side effect. So the big the big thing with this, like whole Stanford debacle seemed to end up in this conversation, is that resident doctors are basically like McDonald's workers at the hospital. Like they get paid that much like that, because they have the most out, but they work and what they get paid is like McDonald's. So they're like, yeah, so we're on the frontlines, like defending people against this virus, and you aren't going to give us the vaccine. And they apparently were like giving the vaccine to like, No joke,

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like orthopedic surgeons and dermatologists. And it's like all people with the money, right? They're like, I will pay for this. And it's like, No, no, no, no, you know, the people who need this are the people who are not getting paid, we're actually risking their life, risking their life. So

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it was some sort of vaccine algorithm that like that, like really, yeah, that was like prioritizing health care workers and older employees. It

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Just got messed up. It was like an accident or something.

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And algorithms is the big player. We keep talking about it that he always believes that you can create the algorithm to write so. Hmm, what is the health care look like in your mind or the future? Right? Yeah, yeah, totally. I'll tell you. Yeah. So the thing is, what what he means by that is that I that as a consumer, I should be, but I get like, why wouldn't Dr. Molly's protocol? Yeah, this Yeah. And I want I want that algorithm. But I want nurse doses, like, you know, algorithm on this other thing, because I know he's good at that. Totally. And then you market each one of your product. Yeah, what I mean, this is what's coming for my brand, at least, like, I am gonna be hiring people to help me systematize everything that I do, so that I don't have to do all the thinking. And then there will just be a brain online that just doesn't live decision making for me. And it's like, optimizing health is not rocket science. But it is it is, like complicated. And it does require some decision versus support. Because like, what I do takes hours, and like, I can't scale hours and hours of work, like it's impossible. So you have to create, you have to create algorithms, you have to create ways to read your data to make sense of the data in order to interpret it, so you can get healthier. Yeah. And if you ask the same, you know, 20 clients same questions to get to a certain part of what what you're going to decide to treat them then a computer can do that. Yeah. And then it's like, okay, no, we're now we're at the 21st question,

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though, is like address this, like, the psychology and the spirituality? Well, yeah, like, it's gonna be like, the compassion. I mean, the cure might be able to be like, so tell me about your trauma. You know, like, they're like, Well, everybody has trauma, and we need to everybody needs to accept that. Life is traumatizing. Yeah, and this is like part of being human. So once you accept that, like that facet of life, then you realize that, like, almost all of your conditioned responses have been programmed by these experiences, that are in the subconscious or unconscious. And it was, it was a protection, right, it was a protective mechanism. This might be like the best podcast I've ever done.

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Literally, maybe like the best podcast I've ever done.

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But for real, like, so your body's trying to protect you, your body wants you to stay alive, your brain is doing everything it can to make sure that you are breathing. And like cellular respiration is happening, you know. And so really, what it comes down to, I think, is the mitochondria. So like these mitochondria, like, are the seat of consciousness in the body. We think it's the brain, but actually, it's all the cells, all the cells are conscious. And they're all acting in this unison, right. And they're all kind of like independent, but they're all coordinating. And it seems to me like a lot of what happens as we get older is we just get more entropy, which is like good and bad, right? Because like, we want a more entropic brain, we do psychedelics, because it helps us dissolve old patterns, and then we can reconstruct them for integration, which is why it's so important. But But like, unfortunately, with age, like, what happens is, is that like, we start, we don't work on actively, like improving our health, then the by just starts to get worn down. And it just starts to the bioenergetic capacity starts to starts to wane, because people will eat more than they need. And their metabolisms will be essentially, you know, they're eat the wrong foods, the wrong times the wrong amounts, and they won't move their bodies, which is what we're designed to do, which completely designed to be your body's like, all the time. And so it's no wonder everyone's getting metabolic disease, like someone with this is what's going to kill us. Like, it's no, it's we just have to redesign society to optimize for the things that contribute to energy production, which is movement, which is community, which is eating the right foods, the right times the right amounts, and having reverence for the sourcing that you get, you know, it's almost like we should have like disco time.

58:50
I mean, just dance, you know, dance, like at some point, right? Like, it's just like, Oh, it's three o'clock. It's disco. Oh, yeah. No, she

58:58
dances Yeah, for real, like, everyone could dance all like, once a day. If they wanted to. It would be good for them. Because the best exercises you can do and you can do it anywhere. Yeah, exactly.

59:12
Well, that's I have a little dance party as part of my routine in the mornings. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. I do this like in the shower.

59:19
I don't I mean, it's five minutes, but it's like, well, maybe longer than that. Because I usually have meditation music going on. I'm ready. And then when I start to iron, that's when I put on some more like dancing music. Whoa, that's interesting. Well, basically

59:36
I like get in the shower every morning and if I have a good shower, it'll it'll turn cold. And so

59:42
the good shower is when I'm cold and I turn ice cold. And I dance around scream and like, make songs up and just like makes me do like a cryotherapy session in the shower. No, and I do feel a lot better when I do that. But I have to dance to do it. Otherwise I handle it. And like when I

1:00:00
I did prior therapy once actually had I spent over at Sunday funday. I did because the kids were using it. There's like three kids.

1:00:08
This kid was hogging at you so cute by the way. You still healthy. Thank you. Is he vegan?

1:00:14
No, I don't think No, no. Okay. He's me, but he meditates. I meditate. I taught him to meditate. That is a superpower for children. I agree completely. I think he never. He never says no. Every time I say like, Hey, you want to meditate? He's like, yeah. Oh my god. Wow. Imagine if you could tell any child that hey, you want to meditate, but this is how it works. Are you fucking kidding me? That's like programming. What was crazy geniuses cuz then Omar Oh, this says, What do I do?

1:00:42
And so then, imagine what you're gonna tell like was the four or five at the time, sit still and breathe. Close your eyes. Breathe, right? The belly, the belly button right below your baby's belly. But just focus on that one point. Or focus on the point right below your nose, or focus on scanning your body with your consciousness.

1:01:02
But like, Yeah,

1:01:04
he's not a meditator. Yeah, I was a glucose monitor.

1:01:10
Yeah, this is not probably the health care clinic you envision going into? Sure. But it's really cool. Cuz, I mean, I'd rather hang out in this. Yeah. So So what he was saying about it is that someone else was also trying to get him to meditate. And I looked at him like, hey, Omar, is it okay? If like, you closes your you close your eyes, and he closes his eyes. And and he thinks about you. And he's like, Okay.

1:01:39
And then it just happened.

1:01:42
Oh, my God, that He sees me meditate every morning because I was living. Wow. And he would like come into my room. Oh, my God. And just because he's like, oh, because he could see that. I was moving around. Yeah. And but I was just going to go sit in my little spot where I meditate. Yeah. And he'd come in, and he'd be like, oh, come Waldo. And I just would ignore him. Because it's like, when I'm doing my thing. And then when my when my timer would come off. I was like, Hey, I didn't mean to ignore you. I can feel you. But I was, you know, I'm doing I'm meditating. What does that mean? Ooh. And it's like, oh, I'm just like closing my eyes and just thinking about things. He's like, Okay. And then at some point, he just started doing it with me. Oh, my God. And it was that simple. And then that is brilliant. Yeah. And then he's like, it was really interesting, because I was doing it by a fire one time all the parents in the audience, you can train your child. Yeah. So he anytime he sees fire. Yeah, he's like, Oh, can we meditate? Yeah. And I'm just like, yeah, this is awesome. Yeah. Cuz that is a very powerful. That is super powerful. Yeah. And so but it was just like, what a really Jedi training you like making this kid a Jedi? Well, cuz he tries to meditate, right? But he's like, but I get distracted by the kids. And I'm just like, well, it's different. Because you're the parent maybe or maybe it's not. And for me, I was like, Well, I'm, this is my time. So yeah, yeah. Yeah, he has to accept it. Or, I mean, unless he starts hitting me, but he's like, a kid. I have definitely been meditating before. We had like an animal come in, and like, interrupt me and be like, no, not right now. I'm doing something. But you know that you're a real pro. And you can just like sit and like, do nothing. You know, I went to a meditation retreat, there was a baby. And so like, imagine meditating, and there's like an occasional baby, like doing its thing. And you're like, Whoa, like, this is a different experience. You know? Oh, yeah.

1:03:30
All right. Well, let's wrap it up. Yeah. Oh, my God. This was Rockstar. Fun. This is so cool. Wow. And some lady just walked in. Hi, with my hat on.

1:03:44
But where can they find you? Molly, you can find me at Dr. Molly Co. Dr. m o l l y.co. I hope you guys guys, let's just pray right now. Dear Jesus, please do not let the medical board take my license away from making this podcast.

1:03:59
Because if you do that, to me, it'll ruin my career. Please don't do that. Please don't do that. No. And she's you're very valuable to the community. So I think so. Yeah, I think it comes a lot. It would be really bad if I posted this and they took my license away.

1:04:14
Hey, I think you didn't do anything other than just educate and tell people your experiences. I wouldn't recommend anybody do any of the things that I did. First of all, it would not recommend those things. It was irresponsible. I was just an early adopter. And I actually didn't do and I really honestly after that one experience at Burning Man, I didn't do MDMA for many years, many years. Because I didn't need to I was like, Oh, that's, that's interesting. I already tried that. So like, the biggest problem that people will face when it comes to the psychedelic Renaissance is they will think that these drugs are panaceas that will fix all their problems. You fix your problems. These drugs are doors, like they're they're tools that unlock keys to the doors of your perception, but you have to make the active effort to actually change your life. And like these drugs are not going

1:05:00
Do that for you. So if you're not really signed up for like, the actual work of becoming more enlightened, then like, don't touch them, because they will change your life. And they will flip everything upside down. And you may not actually like the like, you may like or you mean, you may be like, Oh my god, like, I didn't expect this. So, you know, like, they're very intentional. Even if you don't know, I just you're setting them. I just don't Yeah, you have to always set an intention, by the way. And the thing is, is like, every single one in college, the intention was, I want a party, right?

1:05:32
Sure. I didn't really do that with I never really did that. In college. I was just drinking a lot. I didn't do that, like that, that level of crazy. But um, I mean, well, I did. I just,

1:05:45
I was just drinking a lot. I drank way too much in college. But anyway, the whole point is that if you listen to this, you still should not expect that these drugs are going to like cure your an orgasm. Yeah. Or, like, you know, I'm not saying that these things will do anything for you. I'm, we actually have a lot of research to do. And there's actually a company that I will promote right now, because I was they were on my podcast today that I did. It's it's called like people science. And Skye, Noah. He, Noah people science. Yeah. And it's like, he's basically redefining psychedelic research through, like, the recruitment process. And basically, he's creating a platform for individuals to like,

1:06:30
join clinicals research studies that are based on plant medicines, and voluntarily, like participate, and also contribute to science and get and also take part of their company. So they're giving equity to everyone. That's cool, right? It's a totally like a paradigm shift for research. So like, there's there, there are going to be ways for you to get access to this medicine. But right now, if you go to the dark web, and you go on the street, and you get all this stuff from like a dealer, you don't know what it is, and you could really harm you can make you really sick, it can make you feel like it actually could like ruin your life. I know people who've had like persistent,

1:07:07
persistent health problems after having bad MDMA, like persistent health problems. So like, there's the other issue, which is that a lot of people aren't properly integrating afterwards. Right? And so they're like, they go through these experiences, and then they, they just like, they're, they're left open. And then they don't know how to integrate this, this Congress consciousness. And so you have to actually create more order in your brain After you create disorder. And that is the work by the way, that is the work is making sense of all this experience that we're living. And I think all under that. Yeah, no, thank you very much. And I completely agree with you. Thank you so much for I'm so happy that you're in town. It's been a pleasure fun. I'm so glad we did this. Yes, this podcast is produced by floods to fitness Inc. Floods to fitness is an online wellness company that specializes in mindful eating personalized workout programs, and offers a subscription workout program for 20 minute workouts you can do anywhere. We also have a brand new online workout community called online workout. That is where we have three donation based zoom workout classes a week, and an amazing community of people who are all working to be healthier together. Please join below in the shownotes. It's also a social media content firm for creation and scheduling of content and engagement with your fans on a variety of platforms, including this podcast. Find out more about flabs to fitness@www.sl AB es t o fitness.com.

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