ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENTS - CRYPTO, GOLD & SILVER
W/ BORIS PEYSAKHOV
Boris Peyaskhov is a biohacker, futurist, crypto-currency investor & plant medicine enthusiast whose vision is at the leading edge of human optimization and expansion of consciousness. Boris spends his time educating his community on alternative investments (such as crypto currencies, gold and silver), the benefits of plant medicine, particularly micro-dosing “magic mushrooms” as well as speaking about what his vision of Society 2.0 looks like.
His mission is to assist in supporting humanity in its' global transition from society 1.0 to society 2.0 by empowering and educating the general public about the possibilities of what a future society can look like.
Boris offers his expertise on the various tools which are available in helping to streamline society’s transition into a new way of being and co-creating a beautiful, evolved, heart based world together.
"Cryptocurrencies in general, especially decentralized cryptocurrencies are a revolution. They are a major part of our society, transitioning from society 1.0 to society 2.0 from every single aspect, they are revolutionizing finance."
"I think that every individual that is interested in investing should have at least a certain percentage of their investment, overall investment portfolio, in Bitcoin or various other cryptocurrencies, based on their risk appetite."
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Alright guys, welcome to the How Do You Health? Podcast. Man. We haven't done one of these in a while, john. I know it's been like a month. We got Mr. Boris Peysakhov here. I got that right. You did? Hell yes. We're gonna be talking about alternative investment strategy. Well, maybe strategies and just like the idea of alternative investments, that's going to be crypto gold, silver, and the state of the US monetary economy. Ooh, that's a good one. Right? Yeah. So Boris is a great friend of ours. And he became like a brother to us like a like first day. Definitely first day. Yeah. I was about to say you have this presence of like, you already know. Boris's here, right. Like before he walks in the door and I love it. So when you came in the door, was honestly Right. Yeah. They were like, dude, you gotta meet this guy. And I was like, why? He's like, you're gonna love like, you're just absolutely loving. I was like, that's badass. All right. Well, hell yeah. So you came in, we started talking, started talking about, I guess supplements. Really? Yeah, we talked about supplements. And you understood brain chemistry, biochemistry very well, which was awesome. You have your own personal story about health and wellness, which is amazing. And I do believe we've talked about that already. Right. Oh, yeah. So
the other thing that we really talk about a lot lately as the crypto Yeah, and what's interesting, now it's a hot topic, right? Just it should be. If you're not paying attention, I guess you should be now. Right? And so kind of walk us through what cryptocurrency really is?
Well, they're micro level explanations and micro macro level explanations and the macro level is to cryptocurrencies in general, especially decentralized. cryptocurrencies are revolution. They are a major part of our society, transitioning from society 1.0 to society 2.0 from every single aspect, they are revolutionizing finance. They are eating Wall Street's lunch, they are making conventional banking institutions obsolete by destroying all the costs and all the middlemen stuff, they are also by changing the concept of banking hours, the nine to five, I mean, some of the attributes, we'll talk about Bitcoin, but just so the viewers and the listeners know there are over 8700 different crypto projects out there and not all of them are cryptocurrencies, maybe like 20 of them are actual cryptocurrencies, the other largest companies that are has that have set up their concept on a blockchain and what is a blockchain to start with that is basically a there are centralized blockchains and there are decentralized blockchains. a centralized blockchain is something like a company can put together for themselves to run their own network, so that they can control it, but still have everything to be accounted for. So a blockchain is basically a very secure, very high performance piece of accounting software, a very sophisticated piece of accounting software. And when I say accounting software, I can't even do it justice to actually to justify that word. It's, it's a ledger. It's, it tracks all information very securely, very safely and the Bitcoin For example, the Bitcoin blockchain has never been hacked. Ever. There is no technology that exists in today's world, as far as we know, that can hack the Bitcoin blockchain because the word cryptocurrencies comes from the word cryptography. And cryptography has been used by the CIA was created by the CIA to to keep their information as secure as possible. It's a set of ever changing numbers that change every x amount of minutes or seconds, depending on the blockchain and their protocol. So you have the blockchain that basically tracks everything and accounts for everything universally across the globe. So so the Bitcoin blockchain we have, right now, as far as we know, there are about 50 to 60 million users or wallets, who use the Bitcoin network are part of the Bitcoin network. And then there are miners that support this network through supporting the actual operating and, and the movement and the security of the blocks itself. So you have that network. And on top of that network, you can build other stuff. You can build currencies, you can build different software applications to track different things. And the blockchain makes everything much more efficient, much more effective, cost effective. It's universal, for example, the Bitcoin blockchain. What is it? What Why is it so valuable? Why is it so interesting? It's global, there are no borders, it's not connected to any single government in the world. It's censorship resistant, is de centralized, it's not controlled by a group of people or an individual, it can't be shut down. You can't read an office, the Bitcoin office right now and shut them down. Because it doesn't exist. It's everywhere. So it's every single user is every single miner. And sure, there are large concentrations of miners in China and other places in the world. But if you shut those down, there's still millions of miners all across the globe. I always talk about this, if you want to know people are like, well, Bitcoin, you know, it's really bad for business for governments. Right? It is it's the it's the government's it's a centralized governments worst nightmare. But why haven't they they shut that shut it down? Because they can't. They tried to regulate the individuals that are using Bitcoin, but they can't regulate Bitcoin Bitcoin itself. Like I talked about this, even if all the 185 or 87 countries got together and simultaneously banned Bitcoin. We don't know that if that would be effective, it probably,
I would still put a value to it.
Exactly. And so what China did in 2017, is they banned the use of all cryptocurrencies. So what are the Chinese citizens? Do they very quickly found VPN? and onion routers and different ways to change your IP addresses? To still log into the network and use utilize Bitcoin transact with it? So it's a government? nightmare?
Jon Mendoza 7:47
Yeah, you cannot control this, this is this is what I love how you open with revolution. I mean, that's exactly what it is. And it almost is incredible, because you compare that to when someone says, I'm going to vote with my daughter by getting organic food, farm to table, this is on a major scale, this is a worldwide, I will affect someone in Africa with this decision,
right? 100% 10% we're all interconnected with it. And it gives us It gives the reason why. So to me, I talk about it about this in my course. To me, Bitcoin and decentralized cryptocurrencies are the best type of a peaceful revolution, that individual or a group of individuals can be a part of, without having to fire a single shot. It's just us saying, you know, what, we are choosing to opt out of this current, broken, corrupt system and go into a system that is not controlled by any government or any central authority, where we are in charge, and we set the market period and we can transact with one another 20 473 65 I can literally send $5 million to my friend in Mozambique, Africa, at 2am on a Sunday morning, and have it be there in Bitcoin, right? Under 10 minutes. And just with a few dollars worth of transaction fees, if it goes from my personal wallet to his personal wallet or her personal wallet. That is freedom. That is security. There's no there's no there's nothing more secure right now. If you know how to actually hold and store your Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, then then then then this particular asset, there's there's nothing more secure than even gold. Wow.
Jon Mendoza 9:31
Yeah, that's, that's incredible. I mean, so you talk about gold and you talk about silver. And, you know, originally, it's interesting. cryptocurrency is a value. It's a thought process. It's a belief right? Like, we all just put value on this. Gold and Silver is what initially was backing the US dollar. Right. Okay. And so Bob, and I would always talk about this. I'm like, Well, I don't understand like, they print more money. They don't get more gold. You know, like, what happens there like that. To be and he's like, well, they don't actually even back anymore.
No. Yeah. So um, so I'll give you guys a little bit of just history one on one, but not for Dummies. So, up until 1930, at 1913. At 13. We'll get the facts at 13. That's when the Federal Reserve was established. Right? And what is the Federal Reserve? It is a private organization comprising of wealthy politicians, bankers and businessmen, who basically lobbied
December 23 1913 2013,
thank you, were basically lobbied to gain access of our country's monetary system. So they are the ones that decide how much money to print along with Congress, of course, but there they have the final say, and they also set our country's interest rates. So up until then, the dollar was backed up by gold, and to a certain to a certain fraction, right? I don't exactly know what the what the denomination was. And they came to power. And very quickly, that ratio began to decline. And then in 1971, Richard Nixon magically took the dollar completely off the gold standard, because you have to understand every time the
Fed gold standard comes,
correct, so that was the gold standard. But what happened was in 1971, what that allowed them to do is, so before then, every time they needed to create a large, large amount of money or print large amount of money, they would have to go out and buy the gold in order to back it up. So they would have something to answer for. Right, it would cost them. Now, when they disconnected in 2021, when they disconnected from the gold standard, the cost to create money basically became free. Yeah, they would issue bonds and all that bs that I call, but essentially, it was free. And now, because I talk about this to create a single dollar, or a trillion dollars, is literally just a click of a mouse. That's it, there's no cost associated with printing a US dollar. And the crazy part about it is that there is no ceiling. There is no finite amount that they can create. We, you know, there used to be measures in place, they would say, Listen, you can't you can only create X amount, you can only print 2% more every single year. Well, I'll give you a crazy statistic. Over 22% of all the money created in the last 100 years, was created in the last 12 months. 20% Yeah, it's almost a quarter. And by the way, they're about to print two more trillion, that's gonna get us to a quarter, right, probably over. So let's just say over 25% of all the money that was printed in last 100 years, just the Fed came to power was printed in the last 12 months. And that leads to something called inflation. Right? The definition of inflation actually funny enough, was rewritten the same year as the Federal Reserve was formed in 1913. How magical, right, and what it said before they came into power, is that the definition of inflation is basically the addition or a sharp increase of monetary supply into the existing monetary supply. So what it does is when you're printing lots of money, what does it do? It dilutes the existing supply, and therefore reduces its value. So right now, and that's what we call the current rate of inflation. So the US government, if you ask them, if they print and talk about everywhere, their current rate of inflation is somewhere between two and 3%. based on how they measure it, but they measure it in a way that suits them, it makes them look good. The actual rate of inflation, as measured by economists that I respect, in a way that I think is more accurate, is exceeding 15%. Right now.
Jon Mendoza 14:00
What was it before the past 12 months?
For the last decade? Yeah, it's been somewhere between seven to 8%. That's how much money they were printing was 20. So it doesn't a double? Yeah. So what does that mean? People like what does that mean that the inflation rate its current rate of inflation is 50%. It means that the dollar is losing its value at that particular rate on an annual basis. So I'll give you an example. If you had $100,000 in the bank account, last year or a year ago, and the rate of inflation is at 15%. That means at the end of that year, that $100,000 we were worth 85,000 or would have the purchasing power of $85,000. Because the prices of assets, goods and services are increasing and the dollar is losing its value. Yeah, so you so basically your money if it sits in a bank account, not doing anything and not gaining any interest. It's melting, literally melting, and just to make people understand This is very important, because people are like, I have friends who invest in real estate, I have friends who own stocks, I have friends who own different equities, etc. And they're like, Well, you know, we're making we're making our return investment. Michael, what's your return investment? Well, you know, my property is appreciating at 8% a year, Mike, wonderful, the current rate of inflation is at 15%, in the succeeding, and honestly, by, I think within the next 12 months, will exceed 25%. They can't stop printing money, this machine, the second they start printing money, it can this entire thing called the US economy and the global economy goes down completely, it cannot sustain itself anymore. So you can only continue to print money, and you can only continue to dilute the existing supply, and therefore, the rate of inflation has to increase. Yeah.
Jon Mendoza 15:46
That's the simple basic one on one. And it's not for dummies, because like you said that, because this is what we've kind of realized, you know, I don't have a finance background. But I
will you're like, well, I'm still making 8%. That's more Yeah. But the thing
Jon Mendoza 16:00
as a as an outsider, kind of looking in 8% is kind of like the gold standard is what anyone's ever told you like, dude, like, if you just leave that in there for 2030 years, you get 8%. I mean, it's not doing anything. I'm like, Yeah, but if I leave it in the bank, it's better than actually used to say like, you can leave it in the mattress, and you'd have more value there. I told you yesterday, I was like, Man, you could probably leave in the matches, you're still losing value on it in a mattress right now. It doesn't matter if it cash
cash is cash and it is melting, unless your investment is outperforming the current rate of inflation, which is 15%. That you are losing money, period. And by the time you are done, reallocating that investment to another investment in the next several months. It'll probably be 20%.
Yes. So you have a course coming out, which I want to get to a second. But you also one thing that I do want to get into because we'd like to do histories is you come from the traditional finance world, right? Like you you excelled in that world as well. You live in New York in New York City. Tell us about about that. And then what made you exit?
Yeah, so I started a little bit over 15 years ago, I started in residential real estate in Boston, went to high school and college in Boston. And then I moved to New York and got involved in commercial real estate, banking, I worked for a subsidiary of Deutsche Bank and was a financial analyst and Portfolio Manager at Kohl's just under $2 billion dollars worth of deals when I was there, not me just my team alone. But I was definitely involved in that work, the private equity for private equity funds and the commercial real estate sector investment sector advise on the acquisitions and acquisitions and dispositions of hotels, office buildings, land for sale over the country, actually over the world to Belize, Mexico, was involved in you know, and slowly got involved in as I was working in commercial real estate, I got involved in other finance businesses, I ran a debt restructuring company, we advise businesses as to how to restructure the debt, that toxic debt with toxic lenders, we have teams of lawyers that would help them out. I did that for a while. And then I got into alternative investments I got into understanding the power of gold, the power of silver, what's happening in those industries, how they're being manipulated by companies like JP Morgan. And then Bitcoin came on the market in 2000, late 2008. I read about it, and I didn't really pay much attention to it. And slowly, surely, as time went on, it became much more interesting. And in 2016, I got involved in cryptocurrencies, but not in Bitcoin. And then 20, late 2016, early 2017 is when Bitcoin really came on my radar, and I started to learn more about it and realize that there's something here. And since then, I've been on this, on this ride, I still have a tremendous amount of respect for other investments, alternative investments, even some equities, even some stocks. And I'm still I certainly hold positions in those assets, gold, silver stocks, but cryptocurrencies now account for over 70% of my total investment portfolio. And that's how much faith I have in them. And it's due to my understanding. So that's where I'm at.
Now, that's perfect. Well, because people say how do you become an expert at crypto? It's so new, it's like, but it isn't.
It's been around for Bitcoin has been around for over 12 years.
Yeah, like, maybe it's newer, that it's so popular now. Right? Like maybe that concept, but the technology has been there forever. Yeah. been there for a long time for a long, long time. It's just like, now we're applying it to like, why would I value this over like the dollar? Well, because it's fucking losing money.
Yeah. You know, the issue that I find with especially a lot of older people who come from traditional finance is that it's such a huge paradigm. It's such a huge shift to Trump to, to jump from the from the legacy financial system and thinking to a new virtual way of thinking that's out there in the cloud supercycle uses cryptography including different technology. It's it's a, it's a, it's a mind jump. And it takes a little while it took me a while to wrap my mind around the concept of mining or creating Bitcoin and how it works and how the network works. And I mean, I still probably don't understand quite a bit compared to what a programmer does, I am an investor, I need to understand why I have a certain level of depth that I need to understand any investment at. And that to me is acceptable for me to make informed decisions based on my investment strategy for the next three to five years. That's all I care about.
Jon Mendoza 20:32
Yeah, I, I've actually started my crypto. And when you said the whole revolution piece, it kind of goes back to it. I mean, you go back to ancient civilizations, and you see, just, I remember learning about when trade first started, and the barter system and the value within precious metals. You know, just started iron started a whole revolution, there was different in war. You look at what gold when that was finally discovered as well. I mean, gold and silver are still true to this day, from what I understand, right? So tell me tell me more about gold and silver? Like, how would I go about investing in gold and silver? And why would I?
Well, they're so gold was, you know, back gold was used to backup the US dollar and many other different currencies around the world gold and silver has been used for 1000s of years as actual stores of value, not silver. I think the the US government disconnected from silver in the early 1800s. So silver, not as much as gold. But I love silver, I'm a huge fan of silver even more than gold. And the reason is because gold right now is a store of value. It's a beautiful store of value. It's a form of insurance that funds and central banks and major banks run to when the economy's unstable. We've seen it happen in 2008, and all the previous times etc. There's lots of manipulation going on for various reasons in precious metals, and even cryptocurrencies as well. But I haven't let go of gold and silver people like well, they're guys who are just Bitcoin guys or cryptocurrency guys, they're, you know, they call them Bitcoin maximalists. And they're gold bugs. And I'm neither, I'm both, I have a tremendous amount of respect for both. I have my certain allocation favorites, right amount 70% of crypto 30% into other other assets. But I like both. But I feel that gold is going to have a substantial increase over the course of the next 35 years in terms of its price and value. Because there are huge funds out there, who when move, when they move money, they move 10s of billions at a time. And because they are beginning to understand and wrap their head around, that the current rate of inflation is 15%. And that a lot of the investments that they have institutional investments are producing probably under 10%. So they're losing money, their funds are melting, and they have to go into somewhere sure the proportion of into bitcoin. But bitcoins market cap right now is around 650 billion, Gold's market cap is around 10 trillion. Also, it's much easier to buy gold you can buy into an ETF, which is an exchange traded fund. So let's let's, let's go really quickly us How does one, what are different ways to buy gold and silver, you can buy the physical metal, or in bars. You can buy an ETF, which is exchange, an exchange traded fund that basically what it does is it takes a bunch of the Top Producing gold mining companies or or just gold storage companies or whatever in that particular sector puts them into an index, you can buy it when they very closely track the value of gold. You can buy stock in mining companies. And you can buy stock in royalty companies. And that's what I talk about in teach in my course. And I have certainly my favorite ways of doing it as well. And the same thing with silver. So that's how you invest different ways to invest in these types of precious metals. So I think gold is going to do incredibly well because major institutions are going to have to go into gold or put a portion of their portfolio gold. But silver what makes it different than gold is it actually has industrial value. Gold does as well. There's not as much as silver. I'll explain to you why. A single commercial solar power panel requires about 20 grams of silver to operate. Us currently has about 50 million solar panels where Biden has committed to increase the output by I think 50%. So huge, so so there's about 500 million, I think 500 million solar panels coming in the next three to five years. China has 650 million panels, and it's taxing that number and then of course, the next three to five years. India and all the other countries are committed to increasing their solar output. So what does that do to the demand of silver significantly? sky high? Yep. Let's not forget about the electrical car battery. Every single electric car battery uses X amount of silver to operate. So where is the most conductive material known to man? So right now, there's graphene, graphene is very expensive, and it's just not user friendly at this particular moment. That's probably 20 years away. But so so as more and more companies, car companies and manufacturers line up their products for electrical cars, you know, gasoline products are basically on their way out for alternative fuel. Yeah, I mean, I think that within 15 years, we will have very few new vehicles being made that used actual gasoline, that most of the electrical, so price of silver, the demand for silver, and every single way, and then artificial intelligence, robotics, silver, so the demand for silver is going to increase exponentially over the course of the next 35 years. And that will drive the price of silver sky high. Also, there's another
another piece to take into account. jp morgan is the largest commodities broker in the world. They just got fined $920 million for manipulating precious metals, particularly gold and silver, how much 920 million? Which is nothing, it's actually a slap on the wrist because double pennies. Yeah, they made between the estimate, the estimation is they made between 10 and 20 billion on these trades. So it's nothing. But what they did is they manipulated the price of silver and gold to stay as low as possible for many years to short contracts, while they and their partners accumulated a very large percentage of the actual physical metal that they store in warehouses. The short contracts have expired, they're sitting in large, large amounts of the actual physical metal. What's the next viable step? They want to drop the price of size? Silver as high as possible. So that's another reason why I feel that many people feel that the price of silver will go up exponentially over the course of the next three to five years. Wow. Yeah.
Jon Mendoza 26:54
Wow, wow, I
bought a lot more jewelry. Like, oh, I've never liked wearing gold. I'd like wearing silver.
I mean, either, either. But like, you know, gold has historically been a safe haven for people. Many people hold physical bars of gold, which I don't really see much value in it.
But what's like DuckTales? Right, it was all fucking dude.
Because Historically, the government you know, during the Great Depression, the government was started confiscating people's gold. Right. So people are like, we've got a hoard as much as possible and hide as much of it as possible. Let's
Jon Mendoza 27:29
show you that it's true. Precious Metals is a very interesting thing. Like I said, I looked at iron and looked at gold and silver and how it's changed course of history. You mentioned one while ago, though, with the one with the G was a graph with a graphite graphene. Yeah. So like, does that have value? And is that something eventually like you could like invest in as well?
It's the graphene is not there are companies that are developing it? It's the process is not perfected? It's very, very expensive. It's not cost effective to use it in any materials yet. Yeah. But is the most conductive material and on demand, by far, even more conductive than silver, but just that there isn't any viable technology that can make it cost effective at this particular moment. Yeah. And again, I think it's many years down the road. Well, I
guess it's more we'll be wearing a fucking graphene like chain or what? Well, no,
Jon Mendoza 28:22
actually funny. I'm actually like, my skin. I couldn't wear gold or silver, because it just tore my skin. But I just wondered like, can you invest in heavy metals? Like, is it Is that a thing like, you can just say, you can do copper? You know,
I I don't, I don't know any public companies or any companies where you can invest in graphene at this particular moment. So there are probably private ventures I'm sure there are many private ventures, I actually had a client that he's represented in commercial real estate, who is in the process of trying to put together $100 million dollars to build the graphene plants. But so you can invest in those types of ventures, but not, you know, not not luckily not in like a fund or an index.
So it's gold and silver.
I mean, there are other there are other metals that uranium is supposed to do very well as we go into nuclear power as well. Yeah. But I have no interest in, in that space. I get you know,
I get you. That's cool. So now, I said with the metals, gold and silver has been kind of those you've known, it's good for you. But if you're gonna have it at home, you begin to melt it down. Right? I mean, that's essentially what it is.
Yeah. So when it comes to the concept of owning physical metal, here's my thought on it. There are many people who feel that if you don't have the physical metal, your position, you don't own it, and you don't trust the funds and the indexes, etc. Or the mining companies. I don't agree with that. I'm an investor. For me, it's very important for my investments to be as liquid as possible. Meaning if I wake up in the morning, and I hear a piece of news that I don't like, I can always liquidate my position within the next couple hours. Yeah, with golden silver. You have to call your broker, tell them that you're sending your golden silver to them. You have to go to the post office ups, you have to mail it, you have to insure it. And then you run the risk, a small risk, but a risk of having that package being lost or stolen. Or if it gets lost or stolen, you can spend weeks or months trying to recover the insurance money. And so you just lost weeks or months. Yeah. In your trading position. Yeah. So to me, as a as an investor, the physical gold is in physical silver is a very bad investment. Having said that, I own a very, very small amount of it, just because it's cool. Like, you know, you have a little bar of gold, or silver tin, can you hold your looks nice and shiny. But that's about it for me.
Jon Mendoza 30:44
That's so awesome.
All right. So let me go back to the crypto. All right. So all right. So let's say I'm starting off from day one, you know, and I'm just thinking like, I don't know what to do. I'm still having my traditional investments. I have IRAs. I mean, I don't know if people still have CDs. But imagine those people, they still have bonds. And there's people that might have a bunch of you know, ameritrade and stuff that they're doing on a daily basis. nj traders. So when you talk to like the old school, they really say like crypto, I mean, I heard someone the other day like crypto like, come on, man. Like, that's not gonna know, me, is this country. And they talked about how much they're investing back into maybe the economy and all this stuff. And I'm like, Yeah, but that's not really solving the problems that I'm hearing. Right? Like, you know, it's, it sounds to me, like, it's not as simple as printing more money. Because if you were in a business standpoint, you don't spend what you don't have. Right? And what's crypto? When I first heard about it, this theory, this revolutionary theory of just saying, if the people need a form of currency, I mean, it's really could have been laughter. Right? It could have been, I mean, it could have been food could have been precious metals, which has been the course history. But because we're in the digital age, and we're about to embark on the AI age, right? Like it's about to get really interesting. Yeah. So if you're not invested in crypto, you could honestly say you're probably behind.
You can say that, I think that every individual that is interested in investing should have at least a certain percentage of their investment, overall investment portfolio, and Bitcoin or various other cryptocurrencies, based on their risk appetite. Yeah. And this is catching on, not just regular individuals, but major funds. I mean, in 2020, in the last six months, what we've seen is an influx of just crazy, crazy volume of institutional investments. Now MicroStrategy is in us $1.2 billion into bitcoin, mass mutual Company of America, one of the largest funds they have, I think, 30 billion, yeah, invested 100 million into bitcoin square 50 million, and all these other companies are running. Paul Tudor Jones, all these other companies and individuals, Wall Street guys are running to put a portion of their net worth into bitcoin. Why? Because there's never been an asset that's performed, and has had the type of returns that Bitcoin has had in the last 12 years. I'll give you some statistics very quickly. And I talk about this in my course. 2010 to 2020 investment data shows that Netflix, their stock gained 4,977% Amazon was like around 1,000%, and then a few companies that were 800% and Microsoft was 500%. Disney was 300% 4,177%. That's great. I mean, any investor would say wow, for me to park my money into you know, so just to give you an idea if you park to have gone back, yeah, and park my money and Netflix would have been awesome, awesome. Preferred for the 10 year period again 4,000% That's awesome. You know, what Bitcoin did 8.9 million percent within that same timeframe. So the difference in 8.9 point 9,000,000% and 40 100%. Is universes apart, not worlds apart? Yeah, yeah, sure. Bitcoin was a new acid it came out when it came out. It was a fraction of a penny, it wasn't much value in it. It was difficult to transact, mostly, you know, programmers and coders who are getting into it. But the but the value of the asset appreciated and appreciated due to real organic market growth, based on demand. And one of the things that gives Bitcoin, a tremendous amount of stability, is that it has a ceiling as to how much they can be created. There can only be 21 million bitcoins ever created based on this golden protocol. You can never create more than that, right now where 18 point 5 million bitcoins been created. We know exactly how many Bitcoin created On a daily, weekly, monthly basis, we know exactly what what the cost is. We know exactly what the miners have paid. We know every single thing about Bitcoin, it's so transparent, whereas we don't know anything about the dollar. The Federal Reserve hasn't allowed an external public audit since 1995. And that's why that's how they're keeping us the people and institutions in the dark. If you are, if you're an organization that's responsible for the creation of money for a country, like the US a large economy in the world, and you set interest rates, how do you not allow an audit? Why would you not allow not? You have something to hide? Interesting? Yeah,
wow. Well, the
other thing about it, some people will talk about how it's still too big of a risk to go into bitcoin. But like as you having all these companies invest huge amounts of money 100 million times 50 million at a time. There's no turning back at this point.
There's no turning back. I think that the Bitcoin cryptocurrency train has already left. cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are a very volatile investment, meaning that they move up and down, and very large percentages. But based on my experience, in my knowledge of this industry, I've been involved in this for three and a half, almost four years. If you're a long term investor, like my view on investments is this three to five years, I very rarely get into investment that I'm planning on being in for three to six months, once in a while, if I know something, but I'm not in that business. I don't want to create stress for myself. So in my personal opinion, and my personal experience, and based on what I know historically about Bitcoin in the cryptocurrency space, it three to five year investment is an incredible investment. Yes, there's gonna be volatility in the midst, but the probability of you having significant gains, I call it a conservative tax, which is 1,000%, by the way, so if you put just so people who are not finance people, a 10 X is to invest 1000 $10,000. And the 10 X is it turns into $100,000. And you know, what to say three to five years or possibly even less? Yeah. Wow, that's great. I mean, I can live with that. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean,
we have passive income.
Jon Mendoza 37:20
It's, it's an incredible time to get into this market. And it's really like, I remember having this conversation with a friend, like a year or two ago, actually, and had to talk with him again, recently. He said he got out of it. Because he wasn't, I don't know. He was like, I don't know why he got out of it. To tell you the truth. Like he was just like, I should have stayed in. He should get that look that. Yeah. Because I'm like, you hear this conversation? All right. People are like, Alright, I need to sign up for the course. I actually, like start investing right now. Baba was like, I'm pulling my IRA. Like, I'm switching it over. Oh, we had this great talk.
Yeah. Because you made a point to me, right? Because it's like, a night and then I followed up with like, well, I guess before I had this money, because I used to not say whatsoever. I just recently started saving in the past couple years. And that will be two years ago. I don't have any money now. It's fine. So like to risk it is totally fine as well, too. Right? So I don't really see it as big of as risk as I, as I was imagining into something when I actually like, took everything down is like Well, what does this really mean? If this happens, or that happens, like well, that just means I lost? X amount. That's nothing but good. It's not a big deal. I'm fucking 30 I don't even know how old I am. 3031 No. 3827
Jon Mendoza 38:39
take the take the average. Yeah.
But, but but you you mentioned, what was that getting to? Your 27?
IRA, how you cashed out your IRA and why you did it?
What cuz you you you mentioned that right, like the idea that like, well, Neil, what is the risk there? Right? Like, there's the risk more of like, Are you just gonna be like, dead? Like, are you gonna be homeless all of a sudden? Because you lost $10,000? Or? I guess not. Yeah. Yeah, wouldn't be fine. Yeah. And so and maybe for someone else that number is bigger than that. But that's what it was for me. Right and the same time as like, I have so much time like, I don't understand what the big rush is. As opposed to like, we were talking about like I did this the other day because there's a coin or even on on on Voyager. I'll throw it out there and Voyager if you put just US dollar coin which is a one to one is paying 8.5% right and so it's like interest and then interest correct on just having it in there. So I was like, Why the fuck am I having all this like money on my regular savings account? That gives me point oh five. And nothing's happening. Well, I'd rather just move it over there. And it's nothing's really happening there either. But I'm making a lot more like what is it 800%
Jon Mendoza 39:56
well over three to five. If you take the equation like what Boris says three to five years. You're Looking at it saying, alright, what's going to be the bigger return in three to five years? I mean, at that point, you're probably going to be higher up than what you're just doing keeping it just safely and conservative. And then you can decide what you want to do then because I mean, I look at it this way. Now, there's all kinds of ways to approach how you do investment, like you talked about, like you didn't make the say that much, and all that as well. Well, it's really interesting, because saving is not like, you can say 20 bucks. I mean, it's not a whole lot. Like some people think I have to spend 1000s of dollars to start investing. Now you just start putting a little bit aside like you would you do put like 10 bucks aside for something like for a trip or something? Yeah. Well, I still do that. Yeah, it's like I put 10. But that's my,
that's my way to budget. Like, I don't budget by like, Hey, I'm gonna allocate X amount. There's like, No, I'm gonna save up to that. No, you'd rather just do that, I guess? Well, cuz then sometimes, like, you know what, I'm $100. shy. I can do 100. Now, well, what's crazy about it if you
Jon Mendoza 40:49
want, like, just real time, you know, data you can get on the app. And like you said, 24, seven. Like you're, you're seeing it in real time. And you're like, Huh, that went down. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna go and just do this now. Because it could be Sunday morning, right? Like, you can be Sunday night. Like, it's really cool.
Yeah. But with regards to what you say your scenario, your IRA account. Before I say this, by the way, I want to preface that this is not financial advice. I am not a financial advisor. We are not financial advisors. We're just three friends that are bullshitting and talking and just sharing our
Jon Mendoza 41:23
And I was just sharing my thought process on why I did what I did. But yes, definitely.
Yeah, I just I just want, I just want everyone listening to know and keep that in mind. Yep. But here's my view on conventional when I talk about this in my course, as well, conventional IRA retirement accounts, etc. Do you know how much you were making on an annual basis with your retirement account with your IRA account? 8%. say percent,
let's do this. Let's be kind, let's just say 10% 10%.
So 10%, the current rate of inflation is 15%. So your IRA is devalued by 5% per year. The regulations? You explained
that to me last night,
yeah, congratulations. Yeah. And you know, chances are, you're not getting 10%. And then, you know, 7%, plus the fees that they take on on an annual basis, etc, etc. So which is, which is minor, but it all adds up at the end of the day, right. So, here is what was just what I did with my IRA. You know, I was also thrown seven 8%, a long time, and my parents as well, I cashed them out completely. So when you cashed out an IRA, if you cashed out before the age of 65, there's a penalty fee, and it's 10%. Wonderful. And then you have to pay at the end of the year, you have to pay gains on the taxes, right? taxes on the gains, I'm sorry. Yeah. So which is very, very small as well, you know, it's not, it's not a very big amount, whatever your tax rate is. So even though you lose the 10%, and you pay some in taxes, if you take that money and reinvest it into alternative assets, which will outperform the rate of inflation, and probably, you know, I mean, I'll be conservative, my current my return on investment, my personal portfolio in last 12 months, is well over 1,000%. So 12 months, just in 12 months, yeah, um, you know, it's well over 1,000%, right, I'm not even gonna go back and talk to you about what I did in last 24 months. Because people are not gonna believe me, so. So for me to lose 10% here, and maybe 10% there, and take that money, and then make 1,000%. But let's just say that the market doesn't perform, like I did last month, let's just say I make a conservative 100%. You know, so 100%, minus that 15%, that you'd be paid, etc, is still made. So you know, 85%, right. So if you think of it from that way, yes, sure. There's, there are certain risks involved with regards to investing in cryptocurrencies and alternative assets, they're volatile, etc. But there's also a huge risk staying in an IRA and international account, and you understood that, because your money is literally melting. It's actually the greatest form of theft that the government has ever instilled upon its people. And it's being it's not as being covered up. And I don't mean to sound like a quote unquote, conspiracy theorists. But this is true. And anybody who understands real finance understands what's happening. The whole thing of you know, the the money expansion, the money printing, people, people think it's good, because they're getting a $2,000 stimulus check. Nice companies, corporations are happy because they're getting a nice little, you know, pp cut. But it's actually the greatest form of theft, because what it does on the back end is it devalues that money that they already have and the money that they're getting and the money that they're making. So it looks good on the front end, but in the background in the big picture, and the long picture is crazy. I'll give you an example. Right? Let's say you have $100,000 in the bank account, and the current rate of inflation is just say 15%. Let's say it doesn't grow for the next three years. Let's say it's a 15% Losing $15,000 per year $15,000 times three is what 45,000. In three years, you lost half of the value of your savings account. Just some numbers for people to understand what the fuck is going on. And that's why, in my personal position, and, you know, I also manage my my family's money as well. I can't afford to keep my family's money and my money in conventional accounts that are underperforming the current rate of inflation, it's melting, the money that we work so hard for the money that we pay taxes on, that we sweated over, is melting is being stolen from us. Because the people at the top are printing money, putting in a large percentage of it, and giving a large percentage to companies that can buy up their own stock and inflate the stock market, which is a completely different topic.
Yeah, and if you're younger and working a $10 an hour job, you're not working for 850 dollars $8.50 an hour.
Yeah. And that $8.50 an hour is being decreased by 15%.
Jon Mendoza 46:08
raise the minimum wage right.
off the bone. They they didn't raise it to offset the the the minimal rate that the inflation rate they raise it because they just there was too much pressure coming on. And they raised because they had to not because they want it because they're being cut will cut cost of living keeps going up. Right. I
mean, think about inflation is never going down. Is it?
No, it's only going to increase? I think we'll be at well over 50% in the next 24 to 36 months.
Jon Mendoza 46:34
Yeah, I mean, it's never going down. costuming is always going up. Like it. I mean, it's just it seems like it right now.
Jon Mendoza 46:42
It shouldn't be it shouldn't be but it can and some people,
it's the cost of living and the cost, like for example, what's the secret this way? Let's say your company, right? And you're currently operating at a cost that you know, of 10% per year, right? The more efficient and effective you become, the more you scale, the lower your cost should become. Right? Yep. The same thing applies to the world and the country and the food we eat in restaurants and the cars we drive. But instead, the prices keep on rising. Yep. Why? Because of the inflation rate is out of control. It's an inaccurate.
Jon Mendoza 47:15
So so could this drive down the inflation? Like what it could what could it like imagine that most people put their money in crypto now and then it drives down inflation to the point where like, the dollar becomes a little devalued and then at that point, they stop and then it becomes obsolete. And then the dollar gains value again down the road.
I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that people investing to crypto decreases the rate of inflation. One kind of doesn't have anything to do with the other from from where I sit. It's just people investing into cryptocurrencies or Bitcoin is just people choosing to opt out of the existing operating system that we live in out of the matrix, if you want to call it and getting into another system, where we all control and share the value of the system and it can't be manipulated by an external government can't. You can't over print or create but you can. So the very nature of the US dollar, the way it's designed is that it is inflationary. You can only continue to create more and more and more of it you have to the very nature of Bitcoin is that it is deflationary. Meaning it has a ceiling
which we haven't met,
we haven't met not even close right now. A Bitcoin as of this morning is what 32,000 give or take my personal opinion. And this is just my opinion, I think the end of this year will be at around 250,000 I think that within the next 10 to 15 years, we'll be at 15 million per Bitcoin. It'd be even more because there are not too many safe havens out there. So the current global monetary supply of all the all the currencies, US dollar francs, etc. is is estimated at around $100 trillion. The current global market in terms of all the assets and and the monetary supply is around 300 trillion. And of those assets are losing significant amount of their value due to inflation because inflation isn't just in the United States. Japan has crazy inflation. Like Like, I don't even know where it is. Last time I checked. It's probably over 30% I mean, Great Britain, Italy, Spain, Germany, all these countries are melting there. Oh, we're not the only ones.
We're actually tied to the dollar.
let's do what they value the most short.
The dollar is the global reserve currency, right? It's what all the main countries use as a unit of measurement when trading amongst one another when they're trading gold, silver commodities, oil, energy, etc. So it is so we are in the best shape and we're in a horrible shape. What does this Say for all the other countries in the world. Like Turkey is Melton, Venezuela is melting. Right? So what does that say? So, the point I'm trying to make is that the $300 trillion in assets, the individuals, the companies that control them, they're not idiots. Sooner or later, they're going to have to, and this is what Michael Taylor talks about, who's the CEO of MicroStrategy, who put $1.2 billion to Bitcoin. And it makes a very good point, all these companies are gonna have no choice but to eventually seek a safe haven asset. And as far as he does, he's not a big fan of golden silver. But as far as I'm concerned, there's gold. There's silver, and they're cryptocurrencies. And sure, there are some equities, some big companies like Amazon Tesla, sure, but not all that's going to go into there, and it's gonna be distributed. And that's why this industry, the Bitcoin, and the cryptocurrency, the entire network and China industry is still at its infancy. People like bro, bitcoins that 30,000 hit 40,000 couple weeks ago, like it's way too expensive. It's it's, it's hit a ceiling, McMahon, if you only understood the scales at which the world economies operate where we are. It's at its infancy, it hasn't even started yet. But in my again, this is my personal opinion and the opinion of many other people that are in this space. I see where 32,000 again, today, I see it at 15 million plus 10 to 15 years. What kind of growth is that? I don't do the math.
Yeah, correct. It's really interesting, because I was recently traveling abroad. And that was one thing I kept checking is like my cryptocurrency for whatever reason is like, it's interesting, because I'm in a different world, they value different money. But I was still having crypto conversations about the same crypto coins in another part of the world. Right, which is, I thought, like, it's really neat, because I can't talk to these people about $1. Because they don't take dollars. Sure. Right, like maybe their governments deal with dollars, but they don't like they want their money their way here. Right? They'll take my credit card, right? Because they'll the transfer just but but that couldn't give them $1 or two?
No? Yeah, the best thing again, I keep on saying this the best thing about cryptocurrencies is that it is a global currency for all the people in the world. Yeah, we're all the same. You know, that the US dollars for most of us people living in, in the US, you know, the Euro is mostly for people using Europe, etc, etc. This is global. It connects the people closer together. Literally, it's a global revolution that connects the people closer together on one network and keeps the governments out. What could be better? What could be better for for, for supporting, and as a catalyst for us to move into this? You know, this this new way of being and living more harmoniously, peacefully, in a healthy manner? Right society? 2.0. That's around the corner. That's just my opinion, like, somewhere between seven to 10 years away from here. I agree.
Jon Mendoza 53:03
I agree. And it could be shorter, depending. I mean, it was last year accelerated a lot. Yeah. And and what's interesting, since we mentioned health, we have a self destruct button, like, on all of us, and then we're born with it. And so you can kind of say we have a pre determined time here. And what we're trying to do is figure out how to prolong that that's longevity, that's health, that's anti aging, whatever you want to call it. But whenever you do something like trauma or stress you accelerate, you hit the self destruct button a few more times than you should. And with society, the way it's been, I mean, what I have learned is things will evolve, things are not stagnant. Change is always constant, right? So society 2.0 I do agree there's a change coming.
It's already here.
Jon Mendoza 53:54
It's here. And if you haven't paid attention, like, I don't know what you're watching, I don't know what you're listening to. But you have to be recession proof. I've heard that before, especially last year, a lot of people were talking about, well, you remember the Great Depression 100 years ago, and people had to deal with jumping off buildings. And what was interesting if you just look at history, okay, let's talk about the Spanish flu. All right. 1918, right, was after that was the roaring 20s. Alright, or 2021. And then what was later after the roaring 20s, the Great Depression. And to be recession, depression proof is your transition into society. 2.0 because we're talking to digital age now. Right? Where if you haven't realized by now, you don't own physical properties, physical properties own you. Write the almighty dollar owns people, and it makes people make bad decisions and good decisions. But when you take that out of the way and say I don't have to worry about Consciousness with this thing is just it's got to a good conscious of its own, it's decentralized, it's part of the revolution, you can focus on other things. And what I would look at is your own portfolio. And investment can also be your health. And the reason why we met was because of health, which is really cool. And even the article you showed us this past week was about health. And it's really cool, because as the people who've listened to this, I'm not gonna lie is really good today. You've learned a lot about finance. And you can tell how humble we are about the knowledge we don't know, when it comes to our relationship with finances. And a good friend of ours. Christina wise told us, you have to have relationship with your finances, you have to have really, it's one of these things people don't talk about. It's almost like saying it's a breakup, or it's a relationship that treats you really bad, you keep going back to it, but you don't know how to you know what to do with it. Baldo Izmit set a good point from his personal perspective, mine has been, I've always, I've always given back or spin whatever I had, and when holding on to it. Now it's been, I hold on to it. I don't know what to do with it. Right. And and now, you look at and say, Okay, cool. There's a couple of things that I knew no, in this world. I cannot wait for other people to tell me. And or at least be hopeful there's a reason or an answer there. And most people who are looking for that from coming from the government that this day and age is not going to happen. It hasn't happened ever. No. They're not there for us, unfortunately, for most of the things and it's, it's a sad, sad hypocrisy that we live in now. But you have the opportunity now with still freedom of speech to be able to hear information like this on a platform that provides it in just a very safe loving manner. That's all it is just like we're having an open conversation. There's nothing territorial here. There was nothing more than just information and education. And I think that's one thing that we've loved about being friends with you is that you've come in here from day one and said, I'm going to, I'm going to show you a couple things. I'm going to educate we'll have a conversation, we'll have a discussion. And I know that your mission now is more of a crusade because you found something that has purpose. I you know, it's funny, I thought health. We talked about, like, you know, plant medicine and other stuff before. I know you thought that that was probably a bigger calling for you. But I think you found something even bigger.
Sure. I mean, I still is I mean I'm very, very, I have a tremendous amount of respect for plant medicine. And they're, these are incredible tools to allow you to upgrade your operating system. Yep. And that's what allowed me to, you know, to
Jon Mendoza 57:38
live in, in this area. Yeah, to do this. Yeah,
to do this. Yeah. And it's a it's beautiful. But yeah, there have many are several different interests. And this are passions. And this is certainly one of them, because it allows individuals to empower themselves to take back their financial sovereignty. I mean, think of it this way, if you didn't have to wake up in the morning to do the nine to five grind, whether you're working from home or not. Or if you had a few $100,000 in the bank and growing collecting interest on that on a monthly basis, and you have freedom, how would you feel inside your body? Sure, listen, money isn't the money isn't the, you know, it doesn't solve all your issues, right. But to me, money and financial security of any situation is a very big part of the overall happiness formula. Money is a beautiful tool, you can use it to build a beautiful home or destroy it, you know, depends on how you use it. You can, you know, you can support amazing causes with it, you can you can start a company, a health company and help millions of 1000s of people around the world. You can do whatever you want with it. But it's a beautiful tool, it's how you use it. And I want to give this tool or teach individuals how to attain this tool for themselves, I want to give them the tools to attain this tool. So they can take back their sovereignty and disconnect from this legacy banking system that is, has a soul sucked in and is controlling us and manipulating us. I want to set people I want to allow people to set themselves free. And to me, money is one of the many tools that will help them do this. It certainly helped me to helping me to do this. Yeah. And that's kind of why I put together you know, this course there are many people, many friends are coming to me and asked me for advice with regards to investing. And it got to a point where I'm really grateful but I just you know, I didn't have the time to speak with everyone individually and spend, you know, an hour on the phone trying to explain what's going on why I invest in gold silver cryptocurrencies and how I invest in what I invest in. So I put together this course you know, it's it's very simple in under three hours of your time. It explains why it's a good time to get out of it. Conventional assets and get into alternative assets. how I did it, it gives you the course gives, I basically provide 18 different assets in the course, eight, eight investments in the gold and silver sector and 10 investments in the cryptocurrency sector, including Bitcoin, I have my I provide my investment allocation, my portfolio, meaning what percentage of my total portfolio is allocated to cryptocurrencies versus gold and silver, how much I have in each of these assets, how I bought them, where I bought them, it's super simple, super to the point 123, you know, and I feel that if individuals were to learn this process, and follow this method, or something like this method, on a three to five year basis, it could certainly be very helpful and another tool that can help them to take back the sovereignty.
Before we get on the, I guess, the website or whatever, where to find this course, we're gonna put it in the show notes, we're gonna email it to people as well, too. You should sign up to our email as well, too. Yeah. Do you have an asset, crypto or otherwise, specifically, that that you're excited about that you would like to share?
Well, when you talk about cryptocurrency, everyone talks about Bitcoin, right? Everyone knows Bitcoin Bitcoin controls approximately 68% of the entire cryptocurrency market cap. And there are over 8700 different companies in that cap. So Bitcoin is one that I'm very excited about. But there are nine other ones that are included in the course. And I'm also very excited about those ones. And I feel that many of those will outperform Bitcoin, because because Bitcoin is already has a significant market cap. And yes, a significant amount of investment will go into bitcoin. But a lot of it is also going to spill into alt coins are alternative coins, which are smaller cap companies. And I'm really excited about those investments. And that's kind of what I focus on diversified investment strategy, but an aggressive diversified investment strategy, where even if half of those investments don't go through, and companies don't make it, the other half will completely outperform the last that was, you know, recognize on and the ones that didn't, Yeah, perfect.
Jon Mendoza 1:02:13
That's awesome. All right, well laid on us. How do they get this course?
Well, you guys will provide the link. Of course, it's called the alternative strategy. It's the alternative strategy calm. But if they sign up through your link, you guys will have a code and they'll get 10% off from the course. So sign up through MSW link, and you guys will provide it in your notes or wherever you post this podcast. And the course itself is just again, it's it's a lot of education. It's super compact, that it's not weeks or days of learning, you can literally you can actually get through the entire course in about an hour, we'll have content. But there are a bunch of articles and videos and interviews from experts in all these respective fields. And I highly encourage you to watch this as also resources. And that will really build more more education understanding as to why these assets are important and why I feel that they are worth while looking into.
That's awesome, man. We have an intro and you have an intro now into crypto. So for anyone who wants it,
yeah, now's your chance.
We help them that's
financial health for you. Thanks, Boris.
Thank you guys.
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